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I'm surprised it's not called the States' Rights War.
Because only confed apologists use that term, and to my knowledge there are no confed apologists in Iceland.
There's almost 400,000 people on Iceland. I'd say there's probably at least one. Maybe even two.
Maybe even three
Let's not go overboard.
Not true. It’s still listed as such in most textbooks in the south.🙄
Yes, like I said:
Yes, as well as every kid that trusts their teacher before having the ability to form their own opinion.
Sadly those kids were turned into confused apologists before they could decide if they wanted to or not
Eerily similar to what happens with religions...
The primary context of your link is very old history textbooks.
This article from 2017 refers to current textbooks and teachings.
In parts of the South it's been rebranded as the "War of Northern Aggression" 🙄
Then they get all red in the face when you ask them who shot the first shots.
That would require them to know history
They know, they choose to ignore it.
Some do. A whole lot don't.
I'm sure there are some rednecks who call it that, but I'd be interested to know if there is a single, modern day public school text book that calls it that.
"but muh heritage" mfrs when I practice my heritage (it's burning confederate flags and killing traitors):
States Rights to what, pray tell?
Don't even grant the premise. The State's Rights argument is entirely bullshit. The secessionists controlled the federal government and slavery was federal law. It was abolitionists in Wisconsin and Vermont that were freeing escaped slaves, and new territories wanted to vote to determine whether slavery would be law. The South opposed their right to do so. Lincoln had not threatened to free the slaves before the war, he just wasn't willing to enforce the federal Escaped Slaves act. That was all it took for the southern states to try to leave America.
But you don't have to take my word for it.
The only time secessionists invoked a state's right to do anything was to secede.
https://youtu.be/-ZB2ftCl2Vk?si=H6oyy-o3n_J4RhoL
It is, but not very often outside of the American south. (They prefer "The War of Northern Aggression" though.)
Any time you hear that phrase unironically, ask what war that is, and then go "oh you mean the Rebellion of Southern Cowards? That's the only way I've heard it phrased other than civil war"
I may not be a descendant of William Tecumseh Sherman, but I grew up in the same area, and maybe it's just something about the water or the geography but I really feel an urge for Southern BBQ and a brisk walk to the ocean when Southern Cowards start speaking up again.
And yet despite that, I would say that the two best things from the South were invented by black people- the music, from blues to jazz to rock and roll and soul food. Not the best revenge, but still some good revenge. A hell of a lot more people listen to rock music than listen to music invented by white people.