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[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Ranching and fishing, yes. But considering that worldwide more than 70% of agriculture is used to support ranching, it definitely seems that ranching is reducing the amount of food worldwide, not increasing it.

Edit: Also should mention, generally when climate activists talk about drastically cutting down or outright ending ranching, that's for the developed world, where healthy alternatives exist. Nobody sane is talking about going and taking the dairy cows off of Indian villagers who depend on it for survival.

Also, we have destroyed the global aquaculture with overfishing.

[–] mars296@kbin.social 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The person you are responding to is not arguing in good faith. I was going to say don't feed the troll but maybe it's better to refute the BS so unsuspecting people don't read them thinking they are correct.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago

Absolutely. I think it's better to refute than to ignore (within reason) for people reading through the thread. Not for the benefit of the troll.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Cows in general are so ludacrisly environmentally impactful it's crazy

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And beef frankly isn't even that great IMO. Lamb tastes better to me, plus sheepsmilk cheese is DELICIOUS

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And goat (and goat's milk) is also amazing IMO

But I may be biased as my family had goats when I was a kid

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago

Never really had the opportunity to try goat (outside of cheese). Not as common to find in my area, I think I've only seen it on a menu in a Mexican restaurant

[–] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ever since I tasted oat milk ill never go back to animal milk at all. I tried for years to like soy or almond but never really could get into it, now all that's sorted

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 months ago

Lactose intolerance gives me little other choice (doesn't always stop me when it comes to cheese tho) 😅 oat milk is delicious but doesn't always work for cooking purposes, almonds are atrocious as far as sustainability goes.