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[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And my comment had nothing to do with bob's second point about centrism, only the first about surrounding yourself with radicals of any political ideology.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You would benefit from being specific when making a comment where your exact words are wholesale endorsement of someone's worldview. Turning around and immediately changing the entire thesis of your comment makes it seem like your goal was to be contrarian rather than add to the discussion.

A. "Don't surround yourself with extremists.

I'd surround myself with extreme centrists instead"

B. "That is shallow"

You. "They see modern issues better than you. (...)"

You may want to rethink how you provide endorsement in general, if someone pointing out how shallow of a belief something that is inarguably shallow encourages you to claim that other someone, off of a single comment, literally sees the world better.

Have a good one.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your reading comprehension isn't my issue to fix. I didn't say a word about centrism. As soon as your ego got hurt you come at me with this nonsense. It's cool, you can still grow from this and have it be worth the time taken.

[–] Umbrias@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's a fun game to call failures of rhetoric someone else's failure of reading comprehension. Flimsy, too.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t say a word about centrism

Implicitly, yes you did, by virtue of defending a comment that did discuss "radical centrism" against criticism for being "extremely shallow".

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You do understand that I can agree with one idea a person has without endorsing the entirety of their character, or even their entire argument? For the record, centrism is destroying my country.

The branch of our major party which would once have been called 'hard left' is now well and truly centrist, almost centre-right or hard-right on some issues such as defense and the right to protest.

Might be healthy to stop believing you have people figured out from one tiny slice of text or one issue that they've discussed, or even crazier: read and understand what is being said before you go pointing your political divining rod.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hilarious(ly depressing) thing is that you could be talking about almost any democracy in the world right now. It's most famously true in America, but it's also true here where I live in Australia, it's true for the UK, we're increasingly seeing it across mainland Europe.

[–] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it's a god damn mess. I wonder if the effect has been as crippling to the democratic process in countries where they don't have systems completely dominated by 2 major parties. Doesn't leave a lot of room for nuance.