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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not very. The Millennium Falcon is about the size of a Runabout. You're not making those turns in a battlecruiser.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Defiant could handle it just fine, and obliterate the Millennium Falcon on its way through.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Possibly. But not with the "stock" sluggish engines.

The Millennium Falcon is way more maneuverable. They are not the same class of ship. I looked up their sizes. The Defiant is supposed to be as thick (the shortest way) as the Millennium Falcon is long. You are comparing a military destroyer to a relatively large speed boat.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Isn't the Millennium Falcon a suped up small freighter? There are no other ships like it AFAIK, it's a custom job. A galaxy class starship (The Enterprise) would be more comparable to a star destroyer. The Defiant is also a one of a kind ship, created to fight the Borg. I'm confident it would completely obliterate the Millennium Falcon, since the Falcon barely has an armament, doesn't have shields TMK, no cloak, no torpedos, no transporter, and no cloaking device. Its only advantage is maneuverability, which is negated by tracking computers.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just teleport an armed torpedo on board the Falcon and detonate it.

[–] rektdeckard@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok holup why don't they do this more often?

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

In the Star Trek world, teleporters cannot go through shields. In a few episodes when they lose shields they have boarding parties attack.

Star Wars ships don’t have shields, they have area deflectors. A ship like the Enterprise could simply teleport active torpedoes into whatever Star War ships they encounter at a critical location and take out every ship with ease.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

What I really want to know is why the Defiant is vaporizing the Falcon in the first place. It isn't like Starfleet to shoot first and open hailing frequencies later.

I'd expect it to go more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKJa8lIiWHg

Then either followed by this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7jWqD3Zs9Q

Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vTQDS36dM

...depending on the writers.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Falcon has shields and missiles. Pretty much every ship in Star Wars except for TIE Fighters use shields. TIEs specifically don't because the Empire is wasteful, stupid, and arrogant.

Everything else comes down to the exact amount and kinds of energy the ships can generate and protect themselves from, and what speeds they can move. Those answers probably exist, but who knows what they are.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

TIEs specifically don’t because the Empire is wasteful, stupid, and arrogant.

Well, also because the TIE is a light fighter built for both speed and mass production, which meant stripping out everything other than engines, guns, and controls. Similarly fast fighters with more features seem to have been made in comparatively small numbers and were issued specifically to either elite Imperial pilots or Jedi depending on the era.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, thats what the Empire said but when you're losing dogfights with 2:1 odds or better because all your pilots get clapped in one shot and never have a chance to gain experience against an outgunned and outmanned insurgency your strategy is just bad.

We know that was the rationale but we also know they were hilariously wrong.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The Falcon is much bigger than a runabout. 23.1 meters by 13.7 meters for the runabout, 34.7 by 23.8 for the Falcon. It's 1.5 times longer and 1.7 times wider.