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You are aware they started that narrative for two reasons: 1) To distract from the fact they were radicalizing nazis in the area and 2) to drum up justification for a war with china. The only reason it's still around despite the MOUNTAINS of evidence proving it wrong is because Americans are so fucking racist that they don't even care that it's blatantly bullshit because it gives them moral carte blanche to hate china.
Oh, it’s gish gallop time? I’ve seen better: https://lemmy.ml/comment/9325173
Very convenient. Maybe you're a chosen one and nobody else can't figure out that light flows in aether. Thanks!
I know you’re in no position to call it a firehose of falsehood, because I knew you were never actually going to read any of it.
But if you want to understand how the Five Eyes governments and corporate media propaganda work, I’ve got a firehose of facts for that as well. The inner workings of corporate media were explained about forty years ago in Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent.
A five minute introductory video: Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
Bonus rounds:
You misunderstood. I'm taking your word as is.
Government propaganda is good to realize!
Let's say we have a basket of apples. The world's most powerful apples. And they all look rotten and diseased, we know the reasons which make them rotten, it's peer reviewed and considered a fact.
So then we make a leap of faith. What if despite evvvvvvveeeerrrything, this one apple is actually pure and holy. And only a few know this for sure and they're not letting anyone else know the proof.
That's very wonderful but, kinda sketchy at the same time?
The metaphor you’re constructing seems to be one part forbidden fruit from the tree of knowledge and one part bad apples, and I don’t quite follow.
The general population doesn't know what's happening, and it doesn't even know that it doesn't know. — Noam Chomsky
Most people don’t know they’re being propagandized in the first place, so it doesn’t occur to them to see past it. And of those who do notice, most don’t have the time, energy, skill set, and inclination to dig out the truth. It’s not impossible, but it is a lot of work. The information is accessible, but corporate media generally aren’t going to provide it.
It's not a metaphor relating to those. You can substitute the apple for anything you like, the fruit is not a relevant object. It just carries similar properties. They can be called 'Notexistilandia', 'United Territories of Nowhereon' or 'Countrystan'. Whatever helps.
You're very close with Chomsky and people not knowing!
What I mean is that the mystical prophecies of one true holy and pure — despite the evidence, like we've discussed, rely much on faith, instead of (and sometimes contrary) to knowledge. And general populations "knowledge", fooled, propagandized is just that — much closer to faith.
More Chomsky:
Idealistic nationalist supremacy is just a form of religion.
Maybe I see what you’re getting at, though I’m not entirely sure. American exceptionalism is a civil religion that conveniently supports bourgeois Americans and their imperialist interests.
Yea muricans are always a good example of the lot. Thanks for discussing and taking part in the philosophical pondering, it's not usual here!