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Device to scare fish away? (self.vegan)

submitted 8 months ago by iiGxC to c/vegan

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Is there anything you can bring kayaking, swimming, or really anywhere people are fishing that will scare the fish away from the fishers? Ideally something not very obvious, and for kayaking something you can easily turn on near fishers and off when you're not near them?

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it’s called the kayak lol

On a serious note, I don’t think there’s much you can really do to stop hobbyist fishers. The scale of factory farming dwarfs anything an individual does

[–] iiGxC -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the fish are too trusting 😅 I was kayaking real close to them, they kept a couple feet of distance but definitely wouldn't care given the distance I got from the fishers. But if there was some way to scare them from a distance with a sound or even a scent they like on my boat so they come toward my boat and away from the fishers, I feel like it could be good?

i agree the scale is completely different, to the point that looking at the numbers it doesn't even make sense to focus on fishers and instead divert all that effort to industry, I think it mainly comes down to feeling powerless against industrial fishing / animal ag in general (vs the fishers are right there and it feels like a more even playing field), and a selfish/self centered annoyance that they're making my time on the water worse by causing harm for fun which sucks to see and I feel disempowered from stopping them more directly.

[–] jadero 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

.. if there was some way to scare them from a distance with a sound or even a scent they like on my boat so they come toward my boat and away from the fishers...

So you would disrupt the natural behaviours of all the fish to save a few? That doesn't seem like a reasonable way to reduce suffering and mortality.

[–] iiGxC -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's not disrupting their natural behavior any more than fishing lures and bait are lmao

if you're about to walk in front of a bus do you want me to not say anything nor yank you out of the way to avoid disrupting your natural behavior?

[–] jadero 3 points 8 months ago

How is disrupting an ecosystem comparable to directly intervening to save a specific individual?

If you want to lobby against and mount protests against angling, do it, but don't compound the problem by further stressing the fish or tempting them away from their natural habitats and food sources.