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Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about "I can't use muh slurs, this is awful."

"The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media." /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn't far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they're lying, they're too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How can someone honestly claim to be “in the middle” when one side openly embraces Nazis, sexism, and other forms of bigotry? What’s the middle ground there?

There’s a difference between needing a safe space and not wanting to hang out with the KKK.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

It's an Overton Window thing. They've watched so much "fair and balanced" far-right media that it has made them believe that they're centrists.

[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the answer is the words we use, which are incredibly myopic, literally two-dimensional with LEFT and RIGHT.

This reduction to the binary is exhausting, and probably forces people to think in bad faith. It is all bad faith. The middle ground is meaningless. Bigots don't like to be called out as bigots, and many people are too afraid to call bigots out.

I think the step forward is to be significantly more precise with our language, avoid the temptation to simplify, and to stop using tired labels that are easily hijacked by bad actors.

[–] Alfred0lin@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Actually, left and right can even be one dimensional. Heh.

[–] ycnz@lemmy.nz 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They only want to murder half of all trans people, not all?

[–] dax@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess the other option is only half-murder all the trans people, but yeah; these compromise-always people need to take a second and actually THINK about what they're asking us to compromise on. They sound incredibly foolish and disconnected.

[–] ycnz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

They know what they're asking for. They're aiming for plausible deniability.