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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Let's put the blame on the people who get hit by cars again!

The best fix would be protected lanes (not just paint on a tiny strip of the road), but since they won't bother, wear protective gear and keep your head on a swivel when you're out there!

[–] teft@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

You would think that but I live in a city with protected bike lanes. The scooter riders are dinguses usually. They ride without helmets. They ride way faster than the bikers do which means they're constantly dipping in and out of the lanes trying to pass people. Also they have tiny little wheels with zero contact so when they need to brake in an emergency they can't stop properly. All that put together is asking for an injury.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Best fix is banning large fossil fuel vehicles in heavily populated areas.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Large vehicles period if you ask me, EVs are much heavier than ICE vehicles and can accelerate much faster.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There are a lot of legitimate use cases for large vehicles in urban areas like construction, mass transit, and shipping.

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago

I count four reasons:

  • construction and repairs
  • mass transit
  • delivery of foods and goods
  • emergency services and police.

but a lot of deliveries and repairs can be managed by cargo bike.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Those could be special use cases driven by properly trained people with a CDL that get a pass or we could find new ways to do things, but there are a shitload of absolutely massive personal vehicles being driven around by people who don't know wtf they're doing and people are dying as a direct result.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Not in the budget. The best we can offer is to clutch at our pearls a little harder and ban, ban, ban.

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Netherlands here - even with protected car lanes, e-scooters are forbidden on the roads. Previous experiences from other cities like París seem to reinforce the government’s position.

Edit: Maybe the argument would be better served by separating these two issues: With the increase in bike transit, especially as a partial remedy for ecological purposes, they deserve to have their own lanes (and legal priority in transit - something we have here) at the expense of more-polluting vehicles. Separately, e-scooters can travel in those separate lanes, but they require helmets at least (though this opens the door to having ebike users wear helmets, which isn’t a bad idea).