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[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 108 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

For anyone who thinks this would be a good tradeoff, this would be the worst sleep of your life.

I've only had sleep paralysis a couple times and it was always because I was stressed about homework/work and my brain kept trying to work through the problems in my sleep. It is a terrible experience. Sleep is about way more than physical rest. Depriving your brain of good sleep will ruin your memory and make functioning during the day exceedingly difficult.

Plus, let's look at what employers did in response to women entering the workforce. Has average household income doubled? No, pay has stagnated to the point of households needing two incomes to meet expenses. Don't expect working through your sleep to mean a life of leisure in the day. You're more likely to see wages fall to the point where everyone needs a day job plus a sleep job.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Lucid dreaming is just becoming aware that you are dreaming. Doesn't affect sleep quality at all. Now forcing a lucid dream seems like it might make you sleep worse, but I'm sceptical it even works tbh

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone's saying that the lucid dreaming alone is bad.

It's exploiting the lucid dream state to force people to work when they should be resting.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 16 points 8 months ago

Dreams are important for your brain to do it's brain shit. Integrate memories, work out subconscious things, deal with the what-the-fiyling-fuckishness of being an ape that has an over-developed cognitive realm. Lack of REM makes your mind angry, and can literally kill you. How do you think hijacking such an important process which has evolved over millennia to do menial office work will go? Let's ask taste receptors and high-fructose corn syrup...

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So the thing is

Dreams are supposed to be the mind sorting and copying loosely connected memories for long term storage (because cells don't have a long shelf life) and therefor utilizing the brain during sleep will in theory cause a person to not perform that regular maintenance and eventually sustain permanent brain damage or loss of memory.

You are not supposed to be aware of dreaming. Dream perception is a side effect of maintenance.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Lucid dreaming isn't the same as sleep paralysis though. I've had several lucid dreams and it's great sleep - it has to be because it mostly happens during the deepest part of sleeping.

Would I want to work during a lucid dream though - hell no.

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Hence my emphasis on stress being the factor that led to sleep paralysis for me. I've had plenty of lucid dreaming that was fine. It's when my brain gets stuck on a problem that I can't resolve that it gets out of control and I feel trapped and unable to wake up.

I should have avoided generalized statements when only talking about personal experience, but I am completely convinced that external stimulus meant to keep you working would severely degrade sleep quality.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Ah I follow you. I've only had one or maybe two rare instances of sleep paralysys which were frightening. But I have had many many nights of ruminating sleep brought on by severe anxiety so I can definitely identify with what you're saying.

[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

i say all the time that women entering the workforce is the biggest scam. the only reason its worthwhile is if it allows a woman to support herself, but these days its nearly impossible to be self sufficient