They were within a couple seats in Biden's first 2 years. Manchin and Sinema gave Democrats a majority, but they still didn't have a liberal majority. And with the extremely politicized SCOTUS, there are major limits to what liberals can accomplish.

Not only that, but conservative propaganda works really well. It's not even always policy. Identity politics are actively working against Democrats. So when something that is policy like immigration gets national attention, Democrats cannot afford to ignore it. If they do, THEY WILL LOSE to the people who are radicals.

[–] Jordan_U@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know what's easy though?

Not bypassing congress to sell arms to a country specifically for genocide. (Biden and Israel)

Democrats will break rules / norms, it's just almost never for causes that help people.

He could have simply not done anything, and it would have been better.

If "Don't go out of your way to support genocide." is asking too much, then don't be surprised when people aren't excited to vote for your candidate.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree his attachment to Israel is fucked up. I don't like it. It might cost him the election. He helped with the pause and hostage negotiation and pressed for a ceasefire and that's about it. I know Trump would be worse, but that's not a lot of solace.

Biden has pressed a lot of student debt forgiveness. And it seems like he pushes a new loophole every day. They have fought like hell to keep abortions legal (travel, medication, etc). They replaced a Breyer to keep the court from becoming even more radicalized. They have pushed against the Texas shit like their death traps and state law enforcement. Pushing the boundaries of what is allowed in the Budget Reconciliation.

That along with my civil rights being actively attacked by the GOP makes me eager to vote for Biden. And if we ever want abortion rights back in all states, we need a LIBERAL majority everywhere, not just a Democratic majority.

I think he has done a lot by pushing the boundaries. It's just not sexy to talk about because it's not hurting people.

[–] asteroidnova@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Student debt has only been folks who should already have received forgiveness. He's not doing shit for most borrowers.

He's blocking ceasefire resolutions at the UN.

He has a conservative Republican for an AG.

I mean, he's milquetoast at best. Most progressive in decades ain't shit when they're all right wing.

[–] holland@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So you are less than 14 years old?

2009-2011, they had all 4, POTUS, Senate (59 seats), House and SCOTUS.

Seriously learn some damn history. And it's extremely disingenious to claim that the Dems didn't have all 3 from 2021-2023.

Further the last time the GOP has had all 3 was in 2007. Yet, somehow they manage to get their agenda through.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm 34.

I said liberals not Dems.

And learn some damn history yourself. Trump replaced 2 liberal justices which only requires POTUS and Senate. And we learned under Trump that it's much, MUCH easier to hurt people than to help people. Thanks everyone who refused to vote for Hillary. You did this.

You want change? Vote more liberals in. Don't want change? Keep bitching.

[–] holland@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yet again, with the disingenious bullshit.

Liberals = Dems

And learn some damn history yourself. Trump replaced 2 liberal justices which only requires POTUS and Senate. And we learned under Trump that it’s much, MUCH easier to hurt people than to help people. Thanks everyone who refused to vote for Hillary. You did this.

You just proved my point, dude. Look you don't need all three branches to actual produce results for your base. The Dems don't produce the results we want because they do not want to not because they're powerless.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I assume his point is that calling Manchin or Sinema "liberal" isn't super accurate.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Liberals = Dems

If you think that, you probably shouldn't talk politics. And it's probably not worth the time to talk politics with you.

[–] holland@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should probably learn political terms before telling people not to talk politics. Liberalism as defined by Oxford.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh neat. Here's the definition of political by Oxford.