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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

A line chef isn't considered an unskilled laborer. Unskilled labor is like flipping burgers, digging ditches, and that sort of thing.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Unskilled labor is a bullshit term used to diminish the work done by people in low paying jobs. Many people would say that a line cook is unskilled, slightly above flipping burgers or digging ditches. It's nebulous and useless for productive conversation

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

No you've missed the point. It has nothing at all to do with value or pay scale as you can easily see by comparing a B.S. grad in engineering with a trained plumber who will definitely make more money. All "unskilled" means is that you didn't go to school to start. Period. It doesn't mean it's not valuable or doesn't require skill, it means whoever started the discussion picked shitty words.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

There are definitely jobs that don't really require any specific skills. If you can learn all of your duties after 1 minute of instructions, what would you call that? It doesn't need to be interpreted as a derogatory term, but it's accurate for a lot of positions.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No youre conflating how you define the word "skill" with the actual definition. It's absolutely unfortunate but just means you didn't go to school to get the job.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are plenty of jobs that don't require a college degree but require a lot of skills. Would you consider an electrician to be unskilled labor? I don't know anyone who would. But if you can perform all the duties of your job after some simple instructions then that's usually considered unskilled labor.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes I would because that's how the terms are defined. It doesn't mean it doesn't require skill, it just means that's how some nitwit decided to divide the categories.

Edit: to be exceptionally clear, these categories have NOTHING to do with how you define the word "skill". I didn't pick the words, but you can't force it to fit a definition of skill because this is the accepted meaning. Sorry.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Defined by whom? Merriam-Webster lists the definition I was using as the official definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unskilled%20labor

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I may have responded to you without reading carefully enough. It seems we are in fact making the same point on the reread.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago

Do you mean to say line cook? Because it goes without saying that a chef is a skilled labourer but a cook also has to chop onions fast.