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Amazon — like SpaceX — is the latest company to claim the U.S. labor board is unconstitutional, after receiving numerous labor complaints from employees::Amazon has accused the National Labor Relations Board of being unconstitutional in a new legal filing, according to a report from The New York Times.

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[–] TakiMinase 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Join a union and Boycott these companies. Or stop complaining.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This take brought to you by Amazon!

Seriously this is such a corporate take, demanding that everyone stop complaining unless they do things that may it may not be possible for them to do. Not everyone works in a unionizeable job, and not everyone can boycott Amazon (Most of their profits are from AWS, which runs the majority of sites and services you use. Stop using them, including lemmy instances hosted on AWS? You start!)

Possible that nation wide labor rights may be eroded away, EVERYONE has a right to complain about that.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The AWS side of their business isn't the side everyone complains about with unethical behavior, it's possible to be mad at one side of a company and to boycott it without doing the same to the other side of the company. It really helps that AWS has actual competitors in a way that Amazon shopping doesn't.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s not the same as with warehouse workers, but Amazon does have a reputation of being a brutal employer for software engineers

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Good to know. Sad to say I don't have much choice there unlike how I can just avoid shopping through Amazon, since it's not up to me who hosts websites.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

Oh, you are discontented with Capitalism, are you? Curious that you use an iPhone while claiming to dislike capitalism.

Similar logic lmao

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How would me joining a union help with the Amazon problem? My pay and benefits (and my coworkers' pay and benefits, to the extent of my knowledge) are very good, so we don't currently need a union. My job is completely unrelated to Amazon, and my employer isn't a customer of Amazon or its competitors.

I'm not going to stop complaining about Amazon.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

you can support the Amazon workers unions in a multitude of different way, depending on the exact structure, anything from donating a few bucks to the strike fund too righting a letter to your local representatives, or just informing those around yourself to why unions aren't literally the devil

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Question:

Which one of the following identifies a flaw in the reasoning in the comment?

A) Assumes that the only valid forms of expressing discontent with a company are through union membership or boycotts.

B) Overlooks the possibility that some individuals may not have the practical option of joining a union or effectively boycotting these companies.

C) Presumes that complaints are only valid if the complainer is taking direct action against the companies in question.

D) Fails to consider that boycotting companies or joining a union might have unintended negative consequences.

E) Implies a false dilemma by suggesting there are only two alternatives to address grievances with these companies.