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Also a huge number of people in the US travel to places that are walkable:

  • Disney World
  • Las Vegas (The strip is anyway)
  • DC
  • NYC
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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (6 children)

car free community

cover photo shows both a car and parking lot

I'm just being pedantic but this just shows how ingrained cars are in modern society that even "car-free" communities need them

[–] QuikxSpec@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Also Disney is not designed for public use. It’s built to extract as much money out of you without leaving their property.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The strip is designed for that as well

[–] some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Vegas’ strip is like 1/10 the size of Disney World and had zero central planning, commercial or civil. The individual properties are designed the way you’re thinking but that’s a footnote by comparison.

Disney world is 40+ square miles of engineered profit-extraction entirely managed by a single proprietor. It’s a very hefty case study in commercial and communal design.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago

And yet people enjoy it.

Maybe we should build our city centers the same way then.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

tree free too apparently

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Probably more accurate to say it's a car optional community? Or walkable community? Or even arcology?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I agree with you. Being 100% without a car is hard in most cases.

And the answer I see is trains. For the amount of money that does into the car industry (+ multi lane roads, administration, maintenance, etc) we could have super fancy, comfy, fast, frequent, and cheap/free trains.

And people would have more mobility too, at a fraction of the cost and environmental damage.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Robust public transit is the obvious answer to ridding ourselves of the car menace. Now, I need a few hundred billion dollars to "lobby" this into existence.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Trains for long distance + trolleys and subways for local travel. There will invariably be people whose transportation needs require a private vehicle but this combo alone would clear up the majority of cars on the road in my opinion.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Yes, exactly this.

I would love all city roads to look like this (but non-monoculture, have some flowers):

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even in countries with pretty good public transit like the UK and Germany, a large majority of families have a private vehicle. If we had better trains and subways in the US, I don't think too many people would sell their cars, but only use them once or twice a week, rather than once or twice a day.

That's a huge win in my book.

[–] scrooge101@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

UK and Germany don't have good public transport, maybe except for individual cities. Switzerland on the other hand has good and frequent public transport nationwide.

[–] nickhammes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

As an American who has experienced Deutsche Bahn, National Rail, and Amtrak, I'll stand by Germany and the UK having pretty good inter-city rail compared to us. Lübeck and Bath are the cities there I've been with the worst public transit, and they would be well above average in the US.

I haven't been to Switzerland yet, but it's not shocking to hear the public transit there is all-around better.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

The trains in Japans greater Tokyo area were amazing when I went to visit. 99 percent of the time they took like 3 or 4 minites more than taking a car and I didn't need tk worry about parking or driving.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago

If it's the place I think it is then it's also located directly off the highway without really any nearby restaurants.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Bicycles with trailers? Could work for a lot of packages I order anyways.