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The world has always been going the shit and will continue to go to shit until the end of time. It takes mountains to influence the tides of nations. You should take the responsibilities you can bear, but no more.

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[–] Palewon@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Every generation says the world is going to shit. Sure aspects suck but generally we live in the best times humanity has ever seen.

[–] DrCake@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Sees climate change waving in the distance

[–] Floufym@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

In the distance? Glaciers are now only the shadow of what they were. 80% of insects are gone. Bees are lost. Etc.

[–] Palewon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed it's a big problem but there are a lot of people and countries actively trying to fix things. I definitely feel like we are living in the Twilight Zone in more recent years but still overall the average person is living a better life now than any other time in human history.

[–] Montagge@kbin.earth -1 points 9 months ago

oh boy we got iPhones and lost everything else!

[–] amzd@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not every generation has scientific proof of the world going to shit

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] amzd@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Scientific consensus is that climate change is going to fuck us hard and that we’re not doing enough to slow it down

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

We can’t necessarily judge the stability of the underlying system by the material conditions it produces at any given moment.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes and no. I mean most of us enjoy a climate controlled living situation. Four walls and a roof that doesn't leak on us. Indoor plumbing. Multiple ways to travel long distances in short lengths of time. We have these things better than royalty of 125 years ago did.

On the other hand there's probably never been this much collective anxiety among humanity at any point in history. We have a very small group of very wealthy individuals working very hard to ensure only them and their chosen enjoy the fruits of mass labor when we're at a point where everyone's quality of lives could be improving at a much faster rate if everyone was on the same page.

[–] Palewon@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

The only difference is social media let's us see the anxiety. I'm sure during the bubonic plague, the stock market crash, and the world wars plenty of people had high anxiety.

Globally, crime is at all time lows, extreme poverty is at all time lows, in most countries people can say they are gay without being killed.

Yes we have major problems but I stand by my statement that the average human is better off today than any other time in history.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Bread and circus. There are some fundamentally broken aspects of society that can't be glossed over with a Mitsubishi SVZ-KP12NA 1 Ton 18 SEER Ducted Central Air Inverter Heat Pump Split System.

At no other point has the population been forced to labor as much as it does today, and yet we're still being asked to work more. We are enjoying none of the fruits of our labor aside from minor conveniences that we still have to pay for. Income inequality is worse than ever in modern history.. Year-to-year fluctuations don't counter the fact that we are on a centuries-running downturn that shows no sign of turning course anytime soon.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People had to routinely work 12 hour days up to the 1930s. Labor conditions are bad now, but it's wrong to say they were never worse.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you think there aren't billions of people in the world still working 12+ hour days today? Hyundai cars and Tyson foods are employing actual children in their factories and slaughterhouses in America and getting a slap on the wrist. We just wrote a few laws to make it so that white men didn't have to work that much as often and said we fixed it.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Is that true? Hyundai and Tyson using child labor?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Income inequality is the one statistic you can point to when all the other economic stats show things getting better.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

At no other point has the population been forced to labor as much as it does today

Are you not considering the time before the 40 hour work week was implemented?