I mean, I’m not a Musk fan in the least, but the article does say that the receivers are being sold through an intermediary in Dubai, perhaps unbeknownst to Musk and SpaceX.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 90 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Because of how starlink works, they have to aim satellites specifically at areas for data to flow. They have the ability to turn regions on and off (ie, satellites over China).

They know exactly where the transceivers are and based on movement patterns, probably which side they are on.

Unless he is feeding that position data to the Ukrainian military, he knows exactly who is using them and letting it happen. He didnt sell them the dishes, but he lets them be used.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying there is no authentication whatsoever to use it and anyone with the receiver in Ukraine can just use it?

[–] creesco@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't have starlink nor used it, but if it's anything like other commercial sat internet providers, you register your modem's MAC address or other identifier with the satellite operator and that basically enables you for transmission. It could be that these modems were already authorized for transmission before resale to Russia. You can buy starlink modems in big box stores now so I'm sure the transmission process is automated as well.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is what's happening.

SpaceX knows which satellites were sold to the Ukrainian government though and could apply additional filtering. That's the easiest first step.

To prevent Ukrainian dishes from falling into Russian hands you'd also need some sort of rolling authentication code so the dish becomes inoperable after a period of time.

Simply being in Russian territory doesn't guarantee a Russian is using it as it could be Ukrainian special forces deep in enemy territory.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Russian "territory". Front lines move. So does command. How do you know where the cut off line is if its a fluid vs fixed line in the sand

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You probably can't easily at the front lines. But you probably could past a threshold?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

It's very important that only "good" Corporations allow only "good" people to use their products.

[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

How are you telling the absolute definite difference between who's using which transceiver in that area and which ones should you turn on or off?