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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In some places that’s 12 years old.

Whyyy? Hunting is a dangerous sport that is 100% not required that utilizes lethal weaponry. If a parent wants to take their kids hunting, they should be 100% responsible for them including having the license and owning the firearms. 16 seems like the bare minimum to allow children to engage with weaponry, but probably older to own.

[–] krellor@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a huge difference between giving a child unrestricted access to a firearm, and taking them sport shooting in a controlled environment. I've helped with beginner shooting courses for kids in scouts. There is an adult with each kid, one round loaded at a time, etc. You can similarly control the environment hunting by using blinds, etc, where you oversee the use of the firearm, loading of round etc.

I'm not big into shooting, but from a safety perspective there are ways to hunt and sport shoot with kids in a very controlled way.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Keep in mind, a person earlier in this convo said some kids get one gifted when they get a hunting license, which can be as early as 12, so you're basically attempting to change the entire claim being made... Clearly, in many situations, kids ARE ending up with a firearm under their sole ownership.

[–] theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Having a .22 under the Christmas tree and having unsupervised access to it are two very different things. I know plenty of people who got rifles for their younger children but keep them in a safe with their own guns until the kids are older.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Being gifted a gun is not being given unrestricted access to that weapon. I was gifted a shotgun at 15 and I never saw it unless my dad was present. It stayed in his safe until we went shooting together. When I moved out and showed him my own safe was ready, I got it from him and that was that.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

What I'm saying is you're complaining about something no one is asking for. No one has even mentioned doing anything negative towards people who responsibly teach their kids about guns.

[–] krellor@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I gave my kid a BB gun, but it stays in a safe. I also gave my son a pocket knife for camping that stays in my night stand unless we are camping.

You can give something to a kid without letting them have unsupervised access. I gave my kids steam decks, but limit their screen time.

I agree the original comment lacked specificity. You could gift a gun in a responsible or irresponsible way, and I've seen both.

Edit: and the comment about gifting a rifle also mentioned that in their personal situation they had to have a parent to use it.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Indeed, and that's exactly what they'd be evaluated on. Responsible gun ownership should be the only kind of ownership protected under the 2a. Responsible gun ownership should not include sole ownership by those that cannot even join the military.

Maaaybe under odd edge cases where a kid gets to be their own guardian, but eh.