Hej :) I have cycled through Scandinavia and fell in love with scandinavia, I am planing on moving to Scandinavia but I can not decide on which country. Actually i was Planung to move to Sweden and also speak A2 level Swedish but the government is more on the right wing side.
I am F. early 20 asian looking human rights activist deeply believe in a cosmopolitan system, democracy, care a lot about the lgbtq+ community and dislike „Asian“ style parenting and that family hierarchy stuff.
I am afraid of racism and disacceptance for me as a human being.
As German, people here can be quite racist, Germans never saw me as German, often ask me where I „really“ from, kids on the street do Asian eye gesture… even my friends often ask me about Asian country and culture related stuff. I have just as much knowledge as most of the Germans do. Why is that different?
So which of these two countries might suit me better? Or maybe none of them?
I offer: skiing skills, alpine climb experience, love for licorice, dried fish and BUTTER. Out going, activism for human rights, love big dogs, MBA in mathematics, ironman distance Triathlet, lifeguard license, bad dad jokes! a living 4 year old sourdough starter! I can make 11 different German breads. Please take me Scandinavia 😅
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The original was posted on /r/sweden by /u/Squirrelventure at 2023-07-05 10:41:15+00:00.
Ok_Choice_2656 at 2023-07-05 10:52:52+00:00 ID:
jqqq3atJudging by the posters previous comments he's the typical right wing cultural warrior that whines about immigration, too generous welfare system, political correctness and muslims. I would guess that is his main gripe
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 11:01:16+00:00 ID:
jqqqsekI couldn’t understand all of that, because he mostly writes in Swedish but from some of the words i understood. It seems like Sweden is quite right wing oriented. That’s why i was aiming for the big white north of Sweden. Like Ume(å). Not interested in the crowded south at all. Towards too generous welfare system. Haha i guess that’s a common problem, many Germans also think we are too generous with refugees. But it’s okay I make like 260k a year. If you do not want my tax. I’ll just give it all to Norway :D
Ok_Choice_2656 at 2023-07-05 11:21:22+00:00 ID:
jqqsiojUmeå is probably a good pick. You should probably look for larger towns (like Umeå) if not cities if you want to find likeminded people. Smaller, more rural areas can be great of course but there is more if a gamble as you could be struggling to find likeminded people in some of them. I would guess the same applies to norway.
That being said, Norway is a great country as well. I have no doubt that you will find what you are looking for in either country.
Admirable_Ad8721 at 2023-07-05 13:30:15+00:00 ID:
jqr66wvCome and visit, Umeå Is nice and dare I say a relativly easy town to meat people. Why I say that Is because of It being a universitytown there Is more of people moving In and not just locals that have had the same friends since they were five
WhiteLama at 2023-07-05 11:07:37+00:00 ID:
jqqrbvgThe more north and the more rural you go the less immigrant friendly it gets because in the south there’s been immigrants for a longer time (for better and for worse).
I’d say Sweden and Norway are both amazing countries to move to, and no one will bat an eye at you being Asian, lgbtq, a spider, missing limbs or telling bad dad jokes in either country anyway.
bronet at 2023-07-05 16:27:39+00:00 ID:
jqrvaryRural: yes.
North: this is a huge surprise to me...? Generally, people further north are way more tolerable than southerners on most social issues. Mainly because, well, they're further left.
Rural Skåne is way WAY less immigrant friendly than other parts of the country.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 11:49:34+00:00 ID:
jqqv20oI think so too. Both countries are amazing and offer dried fish and liquorice so it’s very hard to decide. :D
Polisskolan3 at 2023-07-05 11:13:58+00:00 ID:
jqqrvlsI don't think most Swedes have a problem with Asians in general, but you may want to be careful not to give the impression that you're Chinese or in any way associated with China if you want to avoid negative treatment. If you're German with Asian appearance, you should probably be fine though.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 11:29:06+00:00 ID:
jqqt7jeI am banned in China, can’t enter the country for protesting pro Hongkong and free Uyghurs… so ya I guess we can bash about china all together…
Polisskolan3 at 2023-07-05 11:41:52+00:00 ID:
jqqud4sI'm not personally interested in bashing China, but a lot of Swedes are so may enjoy that together.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 11:52:21+00:00 ID:
jqqvbetI think there is plenty of stuff people can talk about personally I like to talk about fun ne more positive stuff, rather than complaining all day long. People will go to the more extrem sides, once the society starts to polarized is hard to recover. Unless Tour de France goes though Sweden and they are giving away croissants for free.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 11:52:29+00:00 ID:
jqqvbv6I think there is plenty of stuff people can talk about personally I like to talk about fun ne more positive stuff, rather than complaining all day long. People will go to the more extrem sides, once the society starts to polarized is hard to recover. Unless Tour de France goes though Sweden and they are giving away croissants for free.
Kenail_Rintoon at 2023-07-05 11:28:40+00:00 ID:
jqqt66yNorthern Sweden is a good choice for work and cheaper although still expensive housing. Umeå is extremely left wing lbtq friendly with a very large percentage of students and young people. Also has a large contingent of both immigrants and foreign students so being asian is if anything a bonus. I think you would like it there.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 11:54:58+00:00 ID:
jqqvkm9Thank you for your comment. It’s really nice to see people here actually telling me: Sweden is nice and not pushing me towards norway. No offense on norway, Norway is amazing I won’t immediately going to move in 2025. so there is still time for me to decide and learn the languages.
brakfart at 2023-07-05 12:14:45+00:00 ID:
jqqxkgaAre you gonna work in the said country as well, or do you have the work sorted out when you move?
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 12:43:28+00:00 ID:
jqr0nftI have a job now and I have worked with a major Silicon valley company so i am not worried about finding a job. But i think it might be fair to tax there, where you live to contribute your part to the society.
brakfart at 2023-07-05 12:48:31+00:00 ID:
jqr17vdFor sure. Just beware that the job market up north is slower as well. If you're able to work remotely to say Germany, you'll be relatively rich in Umeå.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 12:54:02+00:00 ID:
jqr1uo7Very cool! Then I’ll go and buy two mangos make a fruit salad and share it with my neighbours over bonfire. :) Money won’t make anyone happy, for myself speaking as someone who cycled though many counties and sleeps in tents. It’s better to share and have a good community. I would be happy to work as teach or as lifeguard instead of working in a big profit oriented tech firm.
flexez at 2023-07-05 11:13:15+00:00 ID:
jqqrtdyUmeå is one of the safest and best cities in the country. I love that city (though I don’t live there). But you do you, personally I don’t like some of the politics in Norway.
Remember that a lot of people in Sweden also have a ”the grass is always greener on the other side” opinion.
Squirrelventure (OP) at 2023-07-05 12:44:56+00:00 ID:
jqr0talI guess the grass is indeed greener on the other side due to Gulf Stream. 😅 bad dad jokes.