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So nebula seems to be flying under people’s radar, but seems like the obvious option at the moment with many you tubers there already.
It’s subscription based. I’ve got one. I really hope they find a way to join the fediverse in some way.
I'm weirded out by the fact that they offered a "lifetime" subscription for rather cheap. That's not something you do if you want to get indefinite funding for your video platform (hosting video is expensive).
Huh. Didn’t see that. Though it’s not the first time I’ve seen this attempted. I’d guess it’s an idea that spread through certain circles of people interested in long term sustainable services.
From what I've heard from Linus Tech Tips, every creator on it owns a bit of Nebula. They get paid from views and when the service stops being profitable they cash out and give every creator their cut.
Yea it's part of my attraction to the platform/service ... the commitment to creator ownership. All of the youtubers I've seen talk about nebula as "my streaming service ...".
Then how exactly is it a youtube alternative?
thats youtubes whole thing - being freely available.
then pornhub is an alternative as well, guess ?
Well nothing is free. You’re the product on YouTube.
By the same logic nothing on the fediverse is an alternative, as it runs on donations from users which is basically a subscription model with built in welfare for those not able or willing to donate.
Given that nebula videos are more difficult to produce than rambling text posts, it makes sense to be more stringent about the subscriptions. I’d say therefore it’s very much within the spirit of the fediverse as profits are given back to the creators.
I think being categorized as an alternative to a platform is based on it's functionality, not the way you pay for it. It's about what purpose it has to the user.
Besides that, you pay for Youtube as well, but with your data and maybe YT Premium.
Thanks. Will check it out. Maybe I will get rid of my youtube premium soon, especially if more and more creators pull out their content from youtube.
The benefit of Nebula is that they are first and foremost a paid service. So there is less motivation to monetize customers in unethical ways.
There’s d.tube and peertube
Nebula is only populated by some of the Top 1% of YouTubers who made a name for themselves on YouTube. You can't get in until you're already well-known and they approach you. And once you're in, you're stuck shilling for Nebula on YouTube for the rest of your days.
They do not care about the little guy, and expect YouTube to act as its vetting process. It is not a replacement for YouTube. If YouTube went belly up one day, they would not have any place to curate new talent, and would be riding the coattails of whatever ends up being the real replacement for YouTube.
I really do not think that they are aiming to join the fediverse , the subscription model really suggests they want your money and have broadcast aspirations. I also think that the offerings are fairly low level atm of course that might change but I doubt it.
Not sure where your getting broadcast aspirations from.
Nebula was created by a bunch of youtubers. Mostly the video essay types. They didn't like that videos got demonotized so easily if they mearly mentioned a controversy. So they created their own system that's subscription funded so they don't have to worry about advertisers.
I wouldn’t want them to abandon their subscription model. Just make it easier to use and distribute from within the fediverse.
I think subscription models are good and should become normalised for things like artists and more serious content creators.
Fediverse being hot right for all things social media now doesn't mean that everything should go that route.
It's like everything went blockchain in 2019 and everything is going AI in 2023. Some things are fine as they are and they don't need to follow the current buzzword.
Sure. All I'm taking about though, and this is really all that the fediverse is about, is a standard format (ie ActivityPub) for the distribution of data over the internet somewhat similar to HTTP and SMTP for web pages and email.
They don't need a platform or an app and decentralised instances or anything ... just some presence that allows their creators and links to their videos to be easily sharable on here.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebula_(streaming_service)
Their home page, nebula.tv, seems to be down right now.
i was able to access after a few tries