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Some friends I just can’t shake

hard enough

around the neck

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I am not talking about SH because SH is just ONE part of Germany.

And I was talking about a particular breed of conservatives taking SH as an example. It's not my fault when you miss the topic.

From the very beginning I made it very clear that I was drawing a line between conservatism and regressive and reactionary politics. You saying "but regressives and reactionaries exist and they call themselves conservatives" in a million variations doesn't' exactly add to the conversation, yes everyone knows that those people exist. I mentioned them from the start.

Only thinking regionally is not the play. We NEED to fight for this everywhere because this may not be a thing now in SH but it may be a thing in the future.

One possible way to fight this would be to make sure Günther becomes the next chancellor candidate of the CDU. Of course, to do that one would have to be a CDU member. Are you friends with any which you could egg on to make that a thing? Or is your enmity so strong that you refuse to exert influence like that? How about talking to more centre-leaning people, convincingthem that a Günther-led CDU might be acceptable, whereas Merz is an absolute no-go? The CDU will try to get as much centre votes as possible, their preferences matter.

A Günther-led CDU is certainly more realistic than convincing a gazillion of habitual CDU voters that they shouldn't vote CDU.

...or at least someone out of that general corner of the CDU, just looked at recent news Günther seems to push Wüst (NRW) as he wants to stay in SH until (at least) 2027. Or maybe he's playing coy and/or hedging. Never believe a politician when they say they don't want a certain position.

Oh so you feel superior? Any point you make is irrelevant then. A feeling of superiority doesn’t let you see things objectively.

Or maybe seeing things objectively leaves me not with a feeling of superiority, but a dispassionate knowledge of superiority. How come we're the poorest west-German state but still by far the happiest of all?

So we are just going to ignore all the pet projects of conservatives, for example Scheuers car toll,

I don't think I've ever said anything positive about the CSU in my life. Not even parts of it. Not even a single politician.

And your opinion on that matter is the only correct one?

District heating being better is what scientists say. In matters of shoes I defer to the shoemaker.