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[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com -2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean when you say: "christian apologists"? I'm afraid I am not understanding your question and that's me speaking as a Christian.

Do you mean people defending Christian positions in thelogical debates? Or is it the name of some niche sect I am not aware of?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_apologetics

As a Christian, there are a lot of things you can research to learn more about your history and current world.

[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 0 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah. No doubt about that, you never stop learning. It applies to all aspects of life, not just religion.

Reading that links it looks like I actually did know what the discussion is about and just got confused. I googled "christian apologists" like OP called it, found no exact definitions and so I started wondering if maybe it was something I didn't know about. Protestant denominations often have weird names and I keep finding out about new ones, maybe there was also a prot denomination called "apologists". Guess not, though.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apologetics is essentially "defending" something as opposed to say proselytizing (in the example of Christianity). It's frequently used for indefensible topics like rape apologists (the type to suggest the victim was asking for it or could have tried harder to say no) or Nazi's (the usual propaganda). Christian apologists tend to hand wave or ignore the atrocities because "god is an absolute "good"" therefore anything he does is by definition "good" and us mere mortals can't understand the divine plan. Babies dying? God is good. Babies dying and going to hell because they are unable to accept Jesus because they literally are unable to understand the concept? God is good.

[–] iiGxC 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, like one example where I've noticed it was the most recent discussion with alex occonor and william lane craig. I've also experienced it talking to one of my cousins about religion/christianity, but what inspired this post was the theo von podcast where he had jeffrey long on. He was saying "theo" so often it made me super uncomfortable

[–] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uh I see. I didn't know any of those people, so I had to google that discussion between Alex O'Connor and Wiliam Lane Craig. Listened along for quite a bit and it was actually very interesting (so thank you, I'll definitely finish listening to the whole thing later on).

From the way the used that "technique" I am guessing it isn't really that much about Christianity but rather, as others have said, a way to connect to the other person. People often get understandably heated during theological debates (understandably so, our most important beliefs are being challenged), maybe calling the other person by their name is a way to try and remembering the human and forming a sort of emotive connection that could otherwise get lost during the discussion.

Why specifically Christians? I don't have an answer to that one. I am guessing it might happen more frequently with religion talks rather than say politics, or other frequent topics of discussion, because religion tends to appeal more often to morality and thus emotions. Just a guess, though.

[–] iiGxC 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah, alex does really good interviews and debates, glad you enjoyed it :)

and I agree I don't think it's specifc to christianity, that's just where I've seen it the most