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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Because they sell the printers at loss, expecting you to buy their overpriced ink, continually earning them money for years.

Sounds like a subscription to be honest.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know we assume they're following the "razor blade" model but I actually find it hard to believe the printers are sold at a loss given how cheap it is to produce at this point.

Unless by "loss" we're saying "less than HP thought it could extract."

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're absolutely not producing them at a loss. The loss is only in their projections and expectations to price gouge their customers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just looked. You can get an HP Deskjet on Amazon for $40. They are producing those at a loss and expecting people to pay for their bullshit ink subscriptions.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right. There isn't a printer under $150 that anyone should even consider. If you can't afford the upfront cost, then you won't be able to afford the ink of the "cheap" end of the market.

More people should consider not owning a printer at all and using a FedEx print shop or some such. I get the convenience argument for having one, but consider it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I invested $150-200 on a Brother laser printer a very long time ago. Like we're talking USB 1.0 era long time ago. It still works just fine. I've had to replace the toner cartridge once. Those things are workhorses. They will last until the sun goes out. Get one of those if you need a printer. It will still be compatible with your OS, the quality will be all you'll likely ever need, and you don't even have to worry about getting a new one because you can get an ancient one on eBay for a very low price and it will still be fine. All you're missing is color and even if you print a lot, like you said, go to FedEx if you need color because it will probably be cheaper than ink anyway.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They want to make it a subscription that starts automatically when you buy the printer. No payment or the linked credit card expires, no more printing. Keep on paying for that subscription each month even if you don't print a single page.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

HP literally has that already. They call their dystopian product "Instant ink."

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And they're fuming because they can't force this down the throat of every "bad investments". Not yet anyway.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But they're really trying with HP+ printers that come with a 3 month trial of Instant Ink. And it's not like you lose the ability to use 3rd party cartridges, because those HP+ printers already come locked down from factory. Those HP+ printers also have extra REQUIREMENTS: HP Account and internet connection.

Imagine if you needed internet connection and some account to control your lights. Oh, Philips Hue changed their ToS, so now you do.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Why internet of things is a bad idea for 500, Alex.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Here was I, thinking printers couldn’t get worse