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[–] rosymind@leminal.space 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

My guess is that it's to avoid something like finding records of a past leader who is gay, and them then being the first

My issue with this is: why does their sexuality even matter? It's their GD business

Eta: I also hate this with race and gender. "First woman to..." why? Why are we so focused on the color of people's skin, their religion, what's between their legs, or who they love?

I want to live in a world where a mixed-heritage lesbian woman is elected and no-one bats an eye, or mentions anything about it unless it comes up organically by the person elected. Otherwise the only legit question should be: is this person the best candidate for the job?

Ok Ill get off my soap box now

[–] skweetis@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's something you may not know: When you are gay, you have to come out constantly. That's why famous people "announce" that they are gay. And let me assure you, gay people do not want to be the constant subject of public debate. We are the constant subject of public debate because people hate us and want us to die. And because people who maybe don't hate us or want us to die are really obsessed with making sure that those people have platforms on social media and other mainstream media platforms. So, if it's really wearing you down to hear about all these different kinds of people, maybe go yell at some bigots and the people who platform them?

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, that's gotta suck and I'm 100% not against people talking about who they are if they WANT to. What irritates me is the labels people are forced carry.

Like "wow a woman was finally able to achieve what men can achieve" or "wow this gay man was finally able to acheive what straight men can achieve" and that's the part that annoys me

Eta: I think it's meant well, but it implies that there's something "special" about these people that allows them to climb the ranks previously reserved for a select group of people

So to truly be inclusive, things like "race" and gender and sexuality should be looked at as variations of normal, the same way hair color or height is looked at

2nd edit: Ok, sorry, but just to clarify I'm not harping on straight, white, males here. Swinging the pendulum the exact opposite way doesn't help, either. I'm seeing this more as a societal thing that I'd liked to see changed

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

My issue with this is: why does their sexuality even matter? It’s their GD business

With an historical background of certain groups of people being excluded on the basis of discrimination, it makes sense for these things to be newsworthy, as they serve as a "Look, this group of people can rise through the ranks too, and there's nothing wrong with it" general announce.

I want to live in a world where a mixed-heritage lesbian woman is elected and no-one bats an eye, or mentions anything about it unless it comes up organically by the person elected.

I agree with the sentiment, but that works better as an end goal than as a stage we should or could immediately switch into. There's still plenty of bigotry nowadays, and celebrating how it's slowly fading away helps to clean up the bastions where it remains.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It has to actually become a common thing for it to not be a big deal. You can't put the cart before the horse.

[–] rosymind@leminal.space 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, but before things can become commonplace we need voices advocating for the direction of that change. That's my goal. To be a voice.

Also, irrelevant to you, but: I might need a new Lemmy account. Connect isn't working for me and I can't find which e-mail I used to sign up for Lemmy. Super annoying, because I keep needing to search for the posts that I commented on, and then find the comments themselves in order to reply. My inbox just gives me errors about not finding the posts... but they're obviously still here