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I suppose this may make sense in the case of something like Mastodon. But something as versatile and customizable as lemmy, which allows for the existence of separate topic-based communities, makes topic-based instances of lemmy not necessary.

Instead of making a new instance for a certain topic, it is usually a much better approach to just create a new community on my current lemmy instance. At least from my perspective as a user.

I find the only exception to this is censorship and moderation. If I, for any reason am unhappy with an instance's moderation and censorship, then that is the only potential reason I can see to change and make my own.

What does everyone else think of this?

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[–] roho@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree. Lemmy Hoste multiple communities on a single instance. This gives room for interaction with people thinking different than you. That's i.m.o. positive.

I learned In fediverse there's much ignore lists and exclusion of servers happening. I'd much rather have users personally choose which communities/users not to see than whole servers being excommunicated for them(unless it's spam servers ofcourse). Excluded Servers clusters(islands) are a breeding ground for mindset that the whole world thinks likewise(because there's no notion of other servers). In my opinion cancel-culture is detrimental to society. Documentary "The social dilemma" has shown that; eg Facebook which, for add revenue, targets info only to users who are already interested. This breeds anti social/extreme mindsets.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think that there are islands on the fediverse. Yes, some servers block very liberally, but If their admins choose it this way, aren't they free to do so?

Most servers only block a few troll, Nazi and pedo servers and that's it.

I think that it's only fair that the people providing the service are those who get to shape the content that their server provides.

Who is unfairly blocked in your opinion? Do you have an example?

[–] roho@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hi. Thx for the heads up. Indeed server hosters are free to do what they wish. I don't have examples. I saw a video quite a while back, explaining quite some difficulties with moderation on fediverse. I'll search for it.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Moderation is pretty difficult, since theoretically everyone can spin up a troll server within minutes :)

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Definitely, especially last year where some persistent obsessed kiddo would keep finding each federated instance with open registration and making low-tier troll accounts on them.

[–] narF@mstdn.fr 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@roho @cyclohexane My understanding about instances blocking a lot and isolating is that these are marginalized communities who just want a space where they can be themselves. The whole world is already telling them loudly that there are different opinions. They just want a moment of peace.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The focused, exclusive communities and the open, chaotic communities both have their place. Those ones blocking the majority of instances to get rid of junk and harassment are perfectly valid, although I personally would definitely need accounts elsewhere.

[–] narF@mstdn.fr 2 points 2 years ago

@comfy Yeah for sure! I think people are ok with having 2 accounts in these context.

[–] roho@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago