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In a letter published Wednesday on Medium, an anonymous group of Biden's campaign staffers demanded the president call for a ceasefire in Gaza, citing concerns that not shifting his policy on the issue could hurt his 2024 chances.


"Biden for President staff have seen volunteers quit in droves, and people who have voted blue for decades feel uncertain about doing so for the first time ever, because of this conflict," the Medium letter read.

"It is not enough to merely be the alternative to Donald Trump," the campaigners continued. "The campaign has to shift the feeling in the pits of voters' stomachs, the same feeling that weighs on us every day as we fight for your reelection. The only way to do that is to call for a ceasefire."

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Which makes sense. Campaign volunteers tend to skew younger, and the younger demographic really cares about the Israel/Palestine debacle.

But, again, what are they going to do? Campaign for "no President has done more for Israel" Trump?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/16/politics/trump-american-jews-israel/index.html

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But, again, what are they going to do? Campaign for “no President has done more for Israel” Trump?

Not campaign at all. Which I'm sure someone here will interpret as being identical to campaigning for Trump.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah who needs political activism anyway! Oh wait… that’s how we got into this fucked mess in the first place.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can absolutely be an activist who doesn't work under a particular party or politician

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yes exactly. Like the displaced mentally ill guy who yells at the commuters downtown. Completely free of corporate entanglements.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It pretty much is, or if they push to a 3rd party who will end up taking away 5-10% of the vote, that's just as good as campaigning for Trump.

Stein, Kennedy, West have absolutely no hope of winning even a single state, much less the election, but they will make it certain that Biden doesn't win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Really? Everyone who isn't actively campaigning for Biden is campaigning for Trump? Is there anything else to which Biden is entitled by virtue of being the second worst candidate?

If I don't sell everything I own and donate every dime to Biden, have I actually sold everything I owned and donated it to Trump?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Is there anything else to which Biden is entitled by virtue of being the second worst candidate?

Well now that you ask, you also need to talk about how amazing the economy is, and how young and vigorous he is, and like how much safer we are with a secure Israel and stuff.

Any conversation that isn’t talking about how amazing Biden is, is propaganda for Trump.

(Excuse me while I go wash my mouth out.)

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Everyone who isn't actively supporting Biden will make sure Trump wins. Yes.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, you've certainly worked out who to blame.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So if I'm not out bothering my neighbors by knocking on doors and littering the highway with signs I'm campaigning for Trump?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you aren't supporting Biden you are actively helping elect Trump. Yes.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Case in point.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Per Biden himself, there are 50 others who can beat Trump. So, if Biden withdrew his candidacy- like he promised he would last time, there’s zero risk.

In fact, I would say not doing so is the greater risk.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

I guarantee all fifty of those other people would also support Israel.

The neat part about America is that it doesn't care what you think, and will do heinous shit regardless. But you still have to vote or you're a bad person.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, there's no doubt Biden should bounce, and if Trump gets convicted, or otherwise removed from consideration at the RNC in July, I expect Biden to bow out and we'll get a new candidate at the DNC in August.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

biden bowing out after a trump conviction is probably the only thing that's more dangerous than biden not bowing out.

The trials don't begin until late spring, early summer at the earliest, so him bowing out after a conviction is going to be an insanely short window for whoever takes up the canidacy (and is after primaries,) He needs to be bowing out now to let the primary process actually happen.

Anything else means running the risk of trump winning.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, the primaries aren't going to happen. Any replacement, on either side, will have to be at the conventions in July and August.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

which will probably be before trump's conviction(s).

I'm okay with trump leaving the next guy with a shit show, but Biden is supposed to be the "rational adult in the room".

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is indeed a choice between eating shit and being flayed alive.

Like yes...i might survive eating shit, and I definitely don't want to be flayed alive, but wow...what a choice to have to make. Rock The Vote, 2024. Lol.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Man, it's like - every president for the past four decades has been in a shit eating contest, and Biden is the least shit-eating so far - is 'he eats too much shit' really the issue you want to make central to his candidacy? Especially when most voters are in favor of continuing to eat shit, for god knows what fucking reason?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

I'm surprised how many people seem to have forgotten South Park's episode about deciding whether you want to vote for a douche or a turd sandwich.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

Because it's only "eating shit" to the privileged, for folks that live the difference every second of the day, that difference is between a luxury buffet and being the one who's actually at risk of being flayed alive.