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micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility

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Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!

"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.

micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"

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[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I like that cargo bike but damn 6k? That's close to cheap car territory.

[–] swicano@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

I think that's the manufacturer's thought too, if it's a car replacement with much lower upkeep costs, they should be allowed to charge as much as a cheap car.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Good thing the bike has low ongoing costs compared to a car: no fuel, insurance, and low maintenance costs.

Over a year, a car costs thousands just to operate.

Plus you're comparing a brand new bike, which will go with little maintenance for years, to a cheap car, which will break down next month.

https://youtu.be/rQhzEnWCgHA?t=287

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's still a large upfront cost.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No one is saying it's not. Your statement's implication is that because follow up costs are so low that the upfront is negligable, but that's fallacious as it's still significant and potentially out of reach for someone that wasn't planning on spending as much as a car upfront.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Your statement’s implication is ...

I'm gonna say the same thing after my cat wakes up:

"Ooooo big stretch."

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Have a hard time holding conversation past 1 comment?

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In this case, when I wrote "You got all of that", my statement's implication was that I read your whole comment.

Having a hard time comprehending any comments? Maybe I should type slower for you.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Sure dude. Whatever you gotta tell yourself to assuage your delicate ego.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really, how much is new, cheap car?

[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Citron ami goes for arond 8k in Europe, but I'm sure someone could find cheaper used.

And yeah taxes, fuel, and maintenance are more, but most consumers badly underestimate those costs.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Citron ami

I am 1,95 and would take a cargo bike instead if I had to choose, so I could sit upright, lol.

I’m sure someone could find cheaper used.

Sure but that is not a good argument. Used bikes are cheaper than new ones too.