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[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I didnt even remotely imply that x11 doesn't have issues, so im not sure why that was brought up. The goal is to make wayland an acceptable and universal replacement, Everyone knows x11 is dying but wayland isnt ready to replace it yet

Things like window embedding, the wayland way is for each app to have it's own embedded compositor. Wayland has no support for things like overlays/always on top (Useful for OSKs PR has been made but like all wayland things, we might not get it for another couple years, or perhaps never), currently missing support for reading other window states (PR made for this as well, but again, who knows how long it will take), Still no support for window positioning (again PR made), Emulated input events (libei is not universally supported) And these are just the ones off the top of my head, There were others but I cant think of them ATM

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

Xorg is the organization behind Wayland, and the Xorg X11 server is also the best Wayland compositor.

[–] gnumdk@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand X11 is missing an important feature: security

[–] drwankingstein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

while I do agree that x11 could be better in that regard, having the baseline critical features met matter a lot more then security for me.

I personally really like wayland, I just wish it actually was properly usable in all my use cases

[–] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Security at the expense of usability comes at the expense of security. X11 doesn't have security. Wayland doesn't have usability or security. Security is about putting walls in front of the bad guys while letting the good guys go through. Wayland just puts walls around everyone.