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Can someone knowledgeable explain what's going on at the Vatican? Trump-loyal Catholic leaders are being defanged. Diversity and acceptance are being promoted. (www.msn.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I don't know what's going on with the pedophiles, but I hope the same reform.

Is this Pope good?

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[–] SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is just removing the previous Pope's cronies. There's nothing in the article to make me think the Pope is putting in systemic fixes to prevent his own cronies from worming their way into positions from which they can abuse their power.

I would expect any pope or leader to remove those around him who are loyal to someone else.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if anyone on the planet has enough brains to get that loyalty actually is something bad… everywhere you go it is praised like the literal best thing in the world but actually if we all were completely disloyal and only subscribed to our values, we might actually get somewhere.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that zero loyalty may be as bad as full loyalty. Also that things are maybe more complicated than subscribing fully to own or other's values.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ok, sure. Do you care to give an example? I‘d like to get your perspective.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My perspective is that when everyone is only loyal to their own interests this becomes an extremely divided and trustless environment. Whether it's social or workplace this is quite toxic to my views

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 11 months ago

I agree. That is why I said values, not interests.

Interests are something that excites your curiosity or attention. Interests are different from values in that values are your personal principles. Interests get you excited about something and inspire you to take action. You will use your values to guide you as you pursue your interests.

Gave it a quick google to not have to formulate it.