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Anarchism and Social Ecology

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Anarchism is a social and political theory and practice that works for a free society without domination and hierarchy.

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Social Ecology, developed from green anarchism, is the idea that our ecological problems have their ultimate roots in our social problems. This is because the domination of nature and our ecology by humanity has its ultimate roots in the domination humanity by humans. Therefore, the solutions to our ecological problems are found by addressing our social and ecological problems simultaneously.

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[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you're downvoting this post and calling yourself an anarchist, you need to go take a look in the mirror.

Sincerely an anarchist who votes and knows electoralism is a trap.

[–] Excrubulent 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Electoralism is a false dichotomy. It's like when I would tell my small kids, "Would you like to leave the playground in 5 minutes, or in 10? Okay, now let's set a timer and when it's done we're going." We're doing what I decided in the end, but I know they'll come without a fight because I gave them the most minor of choice in the matter.

It's a more sophisticated method of control, not actual power sharing.

Also notice the electoralists in this thread have nothing of substance to argue, they're just saying, "No." Cool, sounds like you've thought this through.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that metaphorically it's less that and more you going to your kids

"So would you like to be murdered by me in 10 minutes or would you like severe ass beatings in 10 minutes? By the way if you say both is bad and refuse to choose the latter I will still murder you"

A lot of us are fighting for our lives and trying not to let the ultrafascists that would LOVE shooting us on the spot take control. It's messed up, wrong in every way and we shouldn't be blackmailed this way by the people who "represent" us.

I'll always be against elections but I won't just refuse to participate in them for the sheer fact that if I don't, my existence might be made illegal very fast.

[–] Excrubulent 2 points 10 months ago

Okay but are you saying you'll vote, or are you saying you'll canvass and provide other material long term support? I vote, of course, it's a 15 minute commitment where I am. I sure as hell won't give the process my full time and attention.

This is the difficult thing when discussing this issue. People like to discuss it as if it's only about voting.

In this case there are three major positions: electoralism; just vote; refuse to vote.

The issue being mentioned in the OP is electoralism, and people are in the comments thinking we're talking about whether or not to vote, which we're not.

Also in general when you look at who doesn't vote, you'll find it's not coming from a position of privilege. It's the most vulnerable communities that tend not to vote, because they are usually vulnerable because they've been neglected or even attacked from both sides of the aisle, and they are also often gerrymandered to the point their vote literally wouldn't matter.