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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 37 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Don't forget the tens of millions of Americans who stayed home because "both parties are the same"

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's always the problem. Sometimes it's just a lack of motivation. Also don't discount voter suppression, like how voting day still is not a holiday and there's a significant lack of facilities in urban areas compared to suburban and rural regions. Nobody should have to wait in line for 5 hours (complete with BS like 'giving them water is a crime') to vote.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the Republicans allowed real democracy to happen, they'd never get elected. They've said this pretty openly.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago

They used to claim they were the vast majority, silent majority, and so on, but it seems like they changed their tune on that and now it's "we don't need a majority! We're a constitutional republic"

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even worse. The single issue voters, or hard core progressive voters who voted independent or wrote in names on their ballot because they didn't get their way. They know who was better for America out of the two real choices, but made the statement of "I'd rather see the country burn than participate"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The faction of the party that formed a PAC to elect McCain/Palin doesn't get to lecture people about jumping ship when they don't get their first choice.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm saying that the same PUMAs who jumped ship and tried to give us VP Palin are hypocrites when they scream at progressives for not voting in accordance with their sense of entitlement.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still don’t understand. Are you saying democrats forced palin through in order to turn republicans off and are now surprised that progressives don’t want to vote for a candidate they don’t like?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In 2008, when Clinton lost the primary to Obama, her supporters formed a PAC to try to get McCain/Palin elected. They didn't get their very first choice and behaved worse than they accuse progressives of being.

Progressives didn't form a PAC to elect Trump. Centrists did form a PAC to elect McCain/Palin.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Oof. I assumed it was at least because they thought palin was a ballot killer. I guess not

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

A quick browse of this community will show you that a large percentage of the users here fall into that category.