Dozens of Jewish protesters and their allies were arrested on Wednesday morning after they blocked rush hour traffic on a busy Los Angeles highway to demand a ceasefire in Israel’s war on Palestinians in Gaza.

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[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 42 points 11 months ago (4 children)

A non-disruptive protest just gets ignored. You need to impact people’s daily lives to make them think why the problem arose in the first place.

[–] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 20 points 11 months ago

People will find a way to get mad at any protest no matter how little it impacts others. See kneeling for anthems or just wearing shirts at events

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But, you need to impact the lives of the people who have the means to make that change. A traffic jam isn't going to do that.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

I mean, is a major highway in the second largest city of the primary colonial sponsor a bad place? I guess if we had free teleportation they might find marginally better success in DC or Tel Aviv, but if you’re located in LA I can see why you’d choose to protest there and not somewhere else.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

If it happened in a vacuum, probably not. But traffic jams don’t happen in a vacuum. They ripple out and cause effects that hit millions of other people. Such as this news article, this lemmy post, and all of the people here discussing it.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Traffic jam equals lots of news coverage lots of pissed off voters, lots of attention lots of eyes, that is how you get to people who can make a change.

[+] EmoBean@lemmy.world -7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

"Fuck shit up for a many people as possible" isn't sustainable. Gandhi and Martin Luther knew that. If it weren't for the number of downvotes people are getting for even hinting that this isn't the right way to do things, I would think this is actually a psyop from the other side to put people off towards Palestine.

Like just stop oil is actually run by oil companies to recruit the most extreme left people that think sitting in the road is doing anything more than pissing the average person off and giving right wing media material to hate you.

But nope, people really are this stupid. On both sides. Both want to divide so strongly, because if people actually got along we would start addressing issues instead of bitching online about what you hate about the other side.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You think Gandhi and Martin Luther King didn't disrupt things? My god of course they did they were extremely disruptive. You've fallen for the whitewash history, were they teach you to be good little boys who sit down out of the way and don't bother anyone. It's fiction. It's not real. Martin Luther King was disrupting a ton of stuff Gandhi even more so.

[–] LibertyLizard 6 points 11 months ago

This is one of the most historically inaccurate things I think I’ve ever seen.

[–] Schmoo 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Here's a quote from Martin Luther King that says exactly what he thinks of people like you:

First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 11 months ago

Bro they said Martin Luther

God does not need your good works, but your neighbor does.

[–] EmoBean@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago

Guess that's why the government assassinated him. But no, don't talk to me about what I believe. Make assumptions because my think =/= your think.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I swear you "both sides bad" guys have worms in your brain.

Left: "no genocide!"

Right: "genocide!"

EmoBean: "akschually you're both stupid wrong idiots we need to be doing some genocide maybe one day you'll be as smart as me"

[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

And a disruptive protest just makes people hate you and your cause.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social -2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm not really asking you to look it up or anything, but this gets parroted around a lot, and I wonder if there's actually any data to really support it or if it's just a statement that kinda sounds nice.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

I mean maybe not data but it's telling that almost every successful movement goes beyond the "quietly protest on the side of the road" step.

[–] LibertyLizard 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What does a non-disruptive protest even look like? The entire purpose of protest is to be disruptive, and every protest is disruptive in some way.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Adding a flag to your profile pic.

[–] LibertyLizard 0 points 11 months ago

I wouldn’t consider that a form of protest personally. Just a way of expressing support.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

This post itself provides a new data point as a piece of evidence to support that claim. There is a news article written about it, and we are talking about it.