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[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There is zero benefit to engaging with multi-billion dollar companies.

The harm is they embrace, extend, extinguish the Fediverse and I can easily see the W3C letting them donate and start putting in some features “to protect” the children or media ownership rights or whatever bogus excuse they’ll use to start cracking down on it like every company does every time it gets involved in something.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But then if other instances don't want those features, isn't the worst that can happen that instances just de-federate from Threads? I know the history of EEE, but I don't see how that can even work here.

[–] null 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But then if other instances don't want those features

In other words, if other instances don't want to have compatibility with the popular instances -- hence the issue.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's not really an issue though; or at least, I'm not yet convinced it's one. We're here because we don't want to have compatibility with Reddit, and I'm on Mastodon because I don't want to have compatibility with Twitter.

[–] null 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

We're here

Are we though? Because it looks like you're on kbin and I'm on slrpnk.

If either one of our instances decides to implement proprietary features that Threads creates (the second E in EEE) and the other one doesn't, that could break the experience of us being "here" together.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And we're free to move to another instance that has the access, or lack thereof, that we want.

[–] null 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yup, thus fragmenting the crap out of the fediverse (the last E)

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I always saw that as a feature, not a bug. The feature that prevents it from being the last E.

[–] null 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you see massive fragmentation as a feature then I really don't know what to tell you.

I guess enjoy?

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm a Linux user. That "fragmentation" is probably a good reason for why that hasn't been extinguished either. So as far as I can tell, yes, I'll enjoy the resilience that that implies without fear of it being extinguished.

[–] null 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I really don't think that's a meaningful comparison.

Federation relies on unity -- fragmentation ruins that.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, you can stick to instances that federate with Threads even if/when they misbehave then, but having the option not to is pretty great, from my perspective.

[–] null 1 points 11 months ago

Sure, that's great while it's still just "instances that do federate with threads" and "instances that don't federate with threads".