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Reviewers really should say "ok, well if it's not covered by warranty then we'll just do CPU benchmarks at the minimum JDEC speeds, as the manufacturer recommends"
Any good reviewer should already be doing a typical non-OC’d benchmark and an OC’d benchmark anyway.
The majority of people don’t overclock so would only care about the stock performance anyway. And overclockers should recognize that if you damage the chip by pushing it too far, it shouldn’t be covered.
Most people don't consider enabling the advertised memory clock speeds as an overclock.
We aren't talking about taking your CPU and overclocking it. We're talking about a simple UEFI checkbox that everyone is told to do.
Who the fuck is “we” here? Because the article is about CPU overlocking. I don’t give a fuck about the parent comments offhand comment about Intel. Intel is irrelevant here.
Your comment I replied to was about reviewer CPU benchmarks.
Who the fuck is we is literally the entire industry. Intel, AMD, every reviewer I have ever seen. Everyone.
Seriously, look at ANY review. They're all done with XMP or DOCP profiles set, just as the CPU manufacturer, motherboard manufacturer, and memory manufacturer recommends.
I don't give a fuck about what your offhand opinions are, I'm taking a out the reality. And the reality is that everyone is told to enable XMP.
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You know memory speed impacts CPU performance right?
Enabling XMP isn’t overclocking the CPU. It wouldn’t blow this fuse.
So have you just abandoned what you said above, or are you just ignoring it?
AMD doesn't consider it CPU overclocking, no. Intel does. That's what I was replying to, as you very well know.
Intel is not in the article. Literally nothing about this post is about Intel other than an offhand remark about XMP.
The article is about AMD CPUs. I could not give a flying fuck about Intel.
I'm replying to the comment. In case you haven't noticed this is a public discussion, and when talking about AMD CPUs, it's common to bring up their only competitor, Intel CPUs.
If you didn't want to talk about intel CPUs, don't reply to a comment about intel CPUs. You inserted yourself into this discussion about Intel's practices then got angry that we were talking about Intel. Amazing.
It's a very reasonable thing to happen in a discussion. Do you know how those work? Talk about AMD leads to talk about Intel. It's not rocket science. You don't need to come in and start screaming that Intel is a forbidden topic.
Seems to me like you're just grasping for something after I dismissed your comment as nonsense.
Lmao you're the one failing to follow a basic conversion and yet you're using that slur towards me?
The dunning-kruger effect is real lol
Take the L.
They're just a sad person.
Well what we're talking about here is just memory speeds, not core overclocking. If you're building a computer and you're paying for RAM that is rated at a certain speed, you need to enable XMP to have it run at that speed. Since the memory controller is now integrated into CPUs, intel considers that overclocking so it voids your warranty. I think most people who are buying CPUs to build their own PCs know this and will not run at base JEDEC speeds.
That's definitely not common knowledge for people who build their own PC.
It definitely is.
Every single review and YouTube video, even from channels with broad appeal like LTT and the like always talk about the need to enable XMP and talk about it having to be enabled to get the advertised performance.
It gets advertised on memory kits and motherboards and they provide easy instructions on how to do it.
It's common knowledge to enable it.
Eh, yeah maybe you're right but it's such a tremendous amount of performance to lose out on for a couple keystrokes. Any halfway decent guide for beginners should be mentioning it but I don't know how people outside my circles build computers. Do they read/watch guides? Do they just plug shit together and pray that it works? 🤷♀️
It's very prominent in any build guide, on even casual PC youtuber videos, in motherboard manuals, on ram kits.
It's absolutely common knowledge to enable XMP, I dunno what that guy is smoking.
There is literally nothing in the article about memory speeds
It’s entirely about overlocking the CPU .
The only thing about memory is your offhand comment about Intel and XMP which is entirely irrelevant to the article.
Hah yeah actually, that should become the standard for Intel CPU reviews.