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It's not about 'sides', it's about not believing that Hamas has done things that it is well-recorded and easily found doing.
a yes, bevause they have time and internetbto browser their phone all day
Internet penetration rate in Palestine is upwards of 70%, Jesus Christ
i was talking about gaza
The poll is of people in Gaza and the West Bank.
Israel cut their power dipshit 🙄
Oh, so the poll didn't happen? Glad to see you didn't read the fucking article, which was conducted in Gaza with in person interviews during the 'humanitarian pause'. Business as usual for you, Queermunist, more than happy to read in your own opinions to anything you didn't actually read. Israel didn't cut power to the West Bank, by the way, but I know better at this point to expect anything but dribbling contrarianism from you.
If they don't have power, how are they going to be reading internet articles? 🙄 🙄 🙄
And they cut off fuel, which means the generators can't run, which means power is extremely limited. Most people can't charge their phones.
It's this collapse in truth that worries me more than anything. People will simply ignore reality rather than admit that this is more complicated than good side v. bad side.
What's the saying? "In war, truth is the first casualty"?
Sadly not new, nor likely to stop anytime soon. All we can do, as outside observers, is try to champion the truth, and avoid embracing lies, regardless of whether they fit our biases or not.
Only found if you have an internet connection ... which Gazans haven't had regularily since Oct 7.
Gazans haven't had one regularly, but the West Bank has largely maintained service, and has a considerably higher level of support for Hamas.
I don't think 'lack of access to information' is the issue here.
And the West Bank isn't Gaza, is it?
Please stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.
... the West Bank was polled here along with Gaza.
What am I trying to justify?
Thinking that Palestinians in the West Bank should somehow override how Gazans polled, ofc without Gazans having stable access to the internet.
The West Bank Palestinians are pissed at the Zionists for burning down their homes and taking property that isn't theirs to take. Colonialism at its finest right there.
Gazans are dying by the thousands, and since 50% of the Gazan population was children (prior to Oct 7) Israel/IDF practiced child slaughter.
Oh, and here's a tidbit from the poll you obviously missed ... nonetheless, the majority of the Palestinians remains unsupportive of Hamas.
The... the poll that you posted and that I am citing is a poll of both Gazans and West Bank residents. It's not 'overriding' anything.
... what does any of that have to do with me expressing horror at the denial of Hamas's war crimes? Where have I expressed the least support for Israel in this conflict? Where have I denied Israeli colonialism, ethnic cleansing, and attempts at genocide?
Where? Because it's really looking like I'm not being responded to, but an imaginary version of an Israel supporter that has zero relevance to the comments I'm actually making.
And again how in the fuck would they know about the war crimes when they haven't had reliable, steady access to the internet?
You seem to think they should know by osmosis.
Again, the West Bank has access to the internet, and even the internet blackouts in Gaza are intermittent to coincide with Israeli offences and minimize proof of Israeli atrocities, not steady.
If your point is "Gazans don't or shouldn't be included in that 90% denial of war crimes", then, if I accept that for the sake of argument, that's still fucking horrifying that residents of the West Bank overwhelmingly approve or deny the war crimes.
So are West Bank Palestians supposed to vote twice so Gazans are covered?
Like I don't understand why you're harping on about the West Bank? The poll was done on all Palestinians (or at least the ones who had phone access). Why are you focusing on the West Bank then?
I don't understand how you got that from what I said. How is that at all an answer?
Again, in the article you posted it specifically mentions doing in-person interviews in Gaza.
Because you're saying Gaza should be excluded for lack of information?
I said that because you continuously focused on the West Bank.
This you? Because that's what started this whole aside about Gaza needing to be excluded.
Mate, this person is either too stupid or too unwilling to actually give a real response to you. Please save your sanity.
I tend to suspect tunnel-vision when these things happens. Happens to all of us, so I try not to form any long-lasting impressions, unless I see a pattern of it.