So you're saying for example a woman gets brought up in an environment where she's raised as a nazi you think that it'd be acceptable for someone to rape and beat her?

I don't really think you do, I'm not going to bother listing other examples but you get the point - what you're saying is not only absurd but it's clearly not what you actually believe.

All people are people, it's that simple and there's no more to it.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, I was saying Nazis have a history of death and destruction, while people leaning towards democracy tend to be a little more gentle with their fellow man.

Nobody deserves to be beaten or raped and I certainly didn't imply that.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You literally said they should have no rights, I get that you hadn't thought about what you were saying but I really think it's important to think about the implications of things we say.

I'd link that clip everyone always uses about the law Vs satan but it's overused, surfice to sau dehumanising humans isn't a thing good people do - and yes I know it's popular to at the moment but when I was a kid everyone thought calling things gay as an insult was a great thing and we as a society grew from that so we can grow from this.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I obviously meant they shouldn't have any rights to practice their nazism or do harmful things to whomever they dislike so much, not that they shouldn't have any human rights.

I feel like this should've been fairly obvious given the context of the conversation. Human rights should always be the first concern no matter who it concerns. Do you think nazis feel the same way?

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

With all due respect, with just how many people are literally calling for violence in this thread, no, I didn't connect those dots either. If you're actually truthful about not meaning they shouldn't have human rights, I'd strongly consider editing your previous statement. If you leave it, you're feeding into the hate echo chamber that you actually seem pretty opposed to. Words have got to be specific, if you're going to speak in absolutes, or people WILL misunderstand or mischaracterize you.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They might, but from my point of view human rights are a given in every situation. I also feel strongly about every human being holding the same value regardless of their standing in society.

I thought we were discussing what could be done to curb nazism, and again, I didn't mention any sort of violence anywhere. I thought it was clear that I meant that Nazis shouldn't have rights to do harm to others, or do other hateful things. I was in no way advocating removing their human rights.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Understood. Context matters, for both of us.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm glad we agree, and to be fair you were completely right; my original post wasn't as clear as it could've been.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

The first sentence you posted is exactly the thread that line of thought leads down. Disenfranchised people need to be talked to, met with empathy from the people they've been told are The Other. That's the only way to destigmatize the two from each other.