this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2023
859 points (98.5% liked)

politics

19144 readers
2842 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Professors from across the country have long been lured to Florida's public colleges and universities, with the educators attracted to the research opportunities, student bodies, and the warm weather.

But for a swath of liberal-leaning professors, many of them holding highly coveted tenured positions, they've felt increasingly out of place in the Sunshine State. And some of them are pointing to the conservative administration of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis as the reason for their departures, according to The New York Times.

DeSantis, who was elected to the governorship in 2018 and was easily reelected last fall, has over the course of his tenure worked to put a conservative imprint on a state where moderation was once a driving force in state politics. In recent years, DeSantis has railed against the current process by which tenure is awarded, and with a largely compliant GOP-controlled legislature, he's imposed conservative education reforms across the state.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] ares35@kbin.social 74 points 11 months ago (4 children)

the brain drain is real. the 'red' states are getting dumber and dumber, and as a result, 'redder' and 'redder'.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A friend of mine was military and also moved all around the country for school and work. He said the dumbest people he ever met, that didn't realize they were dumb, were in Florida.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

That's not at all surprising to me

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

All these doctors and professors they drive out have to go somewhere, and they're probably not going to be giving Republicans the time of day. They're consolidating power in firmly red states at the expense of swing states

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is that true? That would imply the younger generations are getting dumber, and I'm not sure if that tracks. It might be correlative with the fact that younger generations are getting more and more info from Internet sources (Tiktok, YouTube, podcasts, etc.), however.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Talented and ambitious young people from such places leave

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Or never realize that they actually have the talent because no one has helped him with it, so they stay with that undeveloped, making the world a lesser place in their lives as well

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is true to an extent, but it's complicated. Money talks more than cultural vibes, and so to that end, there are plenty of smart and educated young people moving to southern states simply because of affordability. Texas in particular has been attracting a lot of tech workers who don't want to deal with cost of living in San Francisco or NYC.

The top ten states by net migration are: Florida, Texas, North Carolina, Arizona, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Idaho, Alabama, Oklahoma

While the bottom ten are: California, New York, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota

Those bottom five also have the worst housing markets in the country, which probably isn't a coincidence. Blue states have been torpedoing themselves in the foot by not building enough housing to meet demand and causing prices to explode way past any semblance of affordability. While this data relates to all people, not just young educated people, and is also influenced by things like conservative boomers wanting to join DeSantis in building the Christian Republic of Florida, the effect of housing costs can't really be denied.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Blue states have been torpedoing themselves in the foot by not building enough housing to meet demand and causing prices to explode way past any semblance of affordability.

You're not wrong, it is definitely a housing issue as well, but it's also an infrastructure issue, it's just the land and infrastructure can only handle so many citizens living there before it doesn't work.

Ask anyone trying to drive to and from work in Los Angeles every day as an example of the freeway infrastructure how much it can handle.

Brain drain affects both the states that people are leaving from, and the states people are moving to.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

That's an inherent flaw in that kind of car-centric design. Even then, red states have the same fundamentally flawed design; it's just not being stretched to the breaking point like a lot of blue cities are. That's just a matter of time though.

Population density can go way higher than what's in most of LA without turning it into Manhattan, but you have to make significant investments in transit to support it. There will always be people who want large detached single family homes with 2.5 cars, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it shouldn't be the only option the way it is in most of the country.