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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 99 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The problem is just because you're smart enough to realize this doesn't mean you have the money to move

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You're absolutely right, but I also expect that the spillover effects of this will eventually start to hurt people who voted for this shit, if they haven't already. Of course the people who don't vote this way and can't afford to move don't deserve to live through it, but the ones who did vote for it will be the FIRST to complain that they need help, and they can absolutely go fuck themselves.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I imagine a lot of the stupid people who voted for right wing policies, and are then hurt by them, won't connect those dots

Part of being stupid is the inability to look at facts and draw a reasonable conclusion.

Someone might look at "we cut funding for the town, and now the library sucks" and realize there's a connection. An idiot might instead say "it's the black people's fault"

I really want to drive that home. Some people are stupid. They look at the world and draw bad conclusions. I don't know how to fix that.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck em. They reap what they sow, and I'm done caring about their wellbeing.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You say that as if they aren't taking the rest of us down with them.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I'm not entirely convinced the American experiment can be saved at this point, if I'm being perfectly honest. I fully expect them to take us down with the ship.

[–] bustrpoindextr@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Well lead did a pretty big number on a certain generation that has been in power for quite some time, and you actually can't fix that.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It already is. For instance, the majority of rural texas's access to natal care, cardiology, and a few other of the major medical practices is in the same rank as places in central america. It's not just texas either.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's been hurting them a long long time. But they've got that crab mentality. They believe things can't be better. But as long as they can make someone hurt worse than they believe they are. They're happy.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Facts. Never doubt these peoples ability to withstand suffering, as long as it makes it worse for the 'other'.

It's sublime and sad and sadistic at the same time. They'll cut off their own nose to spite your face.

I've been unable to find where in the bible this attitude stems from other than a misattributed 'trials and tribulations' vibe.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't directly state it, but religion has a system of rules behind it, and rigid rules are themselves attractive to a certain authoritarian mindset. Doesn't matter if they make sense; the rules are an end unto themselves.

[–] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That same mindset tends to not apply that to themselves either, being quick to abandon all norms, decorum or decency to attain or retain power.

And then the historical editing comes down heavy handed

He who controls the present controls the past

[–] korewa@reddthat.com 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I need somebody to help me find a blue state where I can afford a 4 bedroom 2400 sf home.

I’m at twice the median income in my city and my house cost 280k built in 2020. Not to mention interest these days really kill the possibility of moving when I got a 2.75% interest rate and no PMI.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 10 months ago

stares at you in Australian

hysterical laughter

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am a bit curious where the balance is for how much shit you'll put up with if it means a lower cost of living (or bigger/cheaper home, anyway). I'm personally of the stance I will pay (or give up) a significant amount of money to live in a good, mostly sane place.

It's obviously a balancing act. Nobody will give up all their money to have marginally better emotional safety. But where is the line? How much better do things have to be in a different place (or how much worse in your current place) to accept, say, a small apartment that costs a solid third of your income? Or inversely, would you put up with a Gilead situation if you got a sprawling mansion out of it?

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] korewa@reddthat.com -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the try but I’ve had a 35 year old house the energy consumption difference and upkeep cost is astounding compared to my current new build.

But yea I don’t think I’ve considered NE I’ve been everywhere else. I think that’s also fairly safe climate change wise? Or maybe it was a specific state according to pbs eons.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Same boat here.