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Edit for those curious why I shared this: Today !memes@lemmy.ml was popping off with a lot of "No war but class war" memes and they were getting a lot of support from the people over there.

I tried to share this there as well only to find out that apparently I was banned over there last week and I still have a week left in my ban. (Never knew I was due to never being told I was banned?)

Only reason I even found out I was banned over there was due to checking the modlogs for lemmy.ml after I noticed my post was gaining no ground.

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[–] boborhrongar@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (10 children)

It literally isn't, it's a rephrasing of a popular slogan to point out the flaws in the argument. If you disagree with the rephrasing that's okay, but there was not a claim that the bottom phrase is something that anyone actually says out loud, so it can't be a strawman.

[–] KepBen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What oppressed minority is excluded when we focus on class war, specifically?

[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It’s not so much that some people are excluded, but rather that class war won’t solve a lot of problems specific to (intersections of) minority groups. That’s a point that’s pretty easy to miss if you’re not part of a discriminated minority, even if you’re aware of the need for class war.

[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The counter argument is that the systemic injustices that exist are perpetuated primarily through it being convenient to maintain the status quo.

A capitalists system like this needs a underclass to siphon wealth from.

Thus by fighting the class war you inherently will be tearing down the pillars upholding these injustices. If you get enough Republican voters to have class consciousness the culture war will fall apart on its own because it primarily exists to keep those groups distracted.

[–] randomname01@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

I agree, but racism, sexism, … won’t disappear just by abolishing the capital class. It is a huge step towards it, but not the absolute final goal.

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