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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She said that on a taped conversation in private. The article said that she was a critic of his, but I'm not sure that she was a public critic of his.

The point being, it's not like Donald Trump doesn't know that he's done things that were wrong. For example, he knows it's wrong to try to steal an election, because he's constantly accusing other people of doing it. But he does know the truth, that it was he who was doing those things.

A person shouldn't be lauded for privately knowing there is a problem, but never doing anything about it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Here's the thing I keep hammering about Trump; He's eat up with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. That doesn't mean "narcissist" in the way people have been slinging the word around for a decade+. It's a real diagnosis with a real meaning.

If you've ever been close to someone with NPD, you realize that they literally have no sense of personal culpability. They are literally unable to process an idea that says "you are wrong".

Trump isn't purposefully hiding his "wrongness" from us, he can't know he's wrong. His brain can't imagine such a thing.
The "stolen" election for example; He did realize for a minute that he was beaten, plenty of evidence of what was said in that brief timespan. So we normal folks say, "Ah ha! Told you he was a liar!"

But his brain reworked the thing, because being beaten, "wrong" to his mind, is not possible.

You could hardly torture a confession out of the man, because to his mind, he has nothing to confess. His behavior is far more terrifying once you truly internalize that.

Now add the beginnings of dementia to his extreme case of NPD. He's basically a religious fanatic, and he's his own god.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point isn't that he thinks he's wrong, but that the things he's done are things that he knows are wrong. He just believes he has some special right to do these things anyways.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, you walked past my point. Trump's brain literally can't conceive that he's wrong, can't know he's wrong.

It's all so much more horrifying than people are making it out. People like you are putting themselves in his shoes and trying to think it out. His brain doesn't work that way.

he has some special right to do these things

That's his brain's way of telling him he was never wrong to begin with.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Let me rephrase it, because despite my explaining it, you still haven't understood.

Would Trump think you broke the law if you took all of the money out of his wallet without his permission? Obviously yes. Would Trump think you broke the law if you took all of the money out of another person's wallet without their permission? Probably yes. He understands the concept that stealing money is wrong. He just wouldn't think it's wrong if he took all of the money out of your wallet.

I've been incredibly consistent in the way I've described this. Trump knows that the type of actions he's performing are wrong. He just doesn't believe they're wrong when he's performing them.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s early hard to explain your point to someone that hasn’t recovered from narcissistic abuse. Even those in the thick of it, you can tell them what’s happening, they can intellectually understand, but they inevitably try to relate and discover excuses or reasons which completely misses the point of how someone that truly has NPD is wired. It’s really a shame and I wish I had a good answer. Their are tons of articles and videos from experts that accurately and intellectually describe what you are attempting to explain but the point you are trying to drive home, which you are accurately and concisely stating, never seems to really sink in for folks in my experience.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... And who doesn't want a god-emperor? LOL

[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The God emperor of mankind is supposed to be hyper intelligent, not a sick old seditionist with NPD - who frankly is somewhat mentally challenged

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Potato tomato.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I don't know anything about her other than what this article says. Lauded is a huge stretch.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm not gonna lose too much sleep over an elderly woman not publicly criticizing her baby brother.