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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't use vehicle integration between your phone and car at all?

Even then, you're still trusting your phone, though. Unless you're using something pretty custom like LineageOS, I'd be surprised if there was anything keeping other parties (Google/Apple?) from spying on your phone communications.

Maybe (maybe) there are regulations keeping your carrier from spying on the contents of your texts. (Maybe.) But (again, unless you're going the extra mile and using LineageOS with F-Droid and no Google apps or something) I'd be surprised if there was anything keeping your phone's manufacturer or evil apps from intercepting your messages.

But also, cars have worse issues than that. I just got a Subaru and their EULA says that by riding in or driving a Subaru, I agree to allow Subaru to record any audio in the car and use the audio to train AI and such. Subaru isn't even the worst privacy offender. See here for more info.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 19 points 1 year ago

Oh no, Subaru, no. Not like this.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Just read through that whole thing, and now I’m wondering when we’ll start seeing hacking tools to disable certain things, or diy manuals to remove the cabin microphone, etc.

edit: or articles like “how to relocate the microphone under your seat so all they can share are farts”

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I pray daily to Saint Louis Rossmann for such tools.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We have that already. It’s called pulling fuses.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That would definitely work, but depending on how everything is connected, something more surgical may be called for if you still want use of some of the equipment you paid for.

edit: I wouldn’t know, my car is over 20 years old.

[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even with the fucking wiring diagram, I'm still not sure how to disconnect my goddamn horn from my keyless entry. The horn relay is hooked up to so much shit. (The 2001 doesn't use a "chirp" with the fob, it uses the whole ass horn.) Both of them. Because naturally there's two. And they're both loud as shit. And maybe I want to lock my car without the whole street hearing it. And yes, there's supposed to be a way to silence it but the particular fobs I got for whatever reason won't.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recently burned out my cigarette lighter/DC port in the dash when an inverter apparently spiked higher than it was rated for. (Or maybe the port couldn’t actually handle the watts it was rated for, idk.) Still haven’t figured out if only that needs to be replaced or if something else needs to be instead or in addition to that. Fuses that appear related to it all seem fine, I asked the local dealership and they just shrugged. Wiring diagram doesn’t help. Not motivated enough to deal with it properly now so I just said fuck it and ran an extension cord from the one in the trunk so I can charge my phone. Maybe one day I’ll care enough to track down what actually broke.

[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might be the wire? Idk. I only consider it because I blew an extension cord using a space heater in my garage. (Shameful, I know, but I was trying to keep some goddamn tomato plants warm while I was tinkering.) I thought it was rated high enough but ended up tripping the GFCI on the circuit. The heater is fine, outlet was fine, but the extension cord would trip the circuit when I would plug it back in even without the heater attached. I'd probably drive myself mad looking for anything melted if I blew mine in my Subaru. Got a couple dash bulbs burned out and god dammit i don't want to take the damn thing apart again.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t want to take the damn thing apart again

That’s basically where I am. I had just put it all back together recently after an A/C repair and was like “you’ve got to be kidding me.” I know I have to remove the stereo components and whatnot just to get to the port connector, and that may not even be what burned out, but I won’t know until I try replacing that piece and it still doesn’t work. Could be a different wire between that plug and the fuse box. Arg, one day I’ll care enough to look at it again.

[–] Substance_P@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like more and more there is a need for some kind of privacy inclined instructional website to come out like iFixit to tackle such things.

[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

It’s probably going to happen, eventually. Still early in the game but there has to be some Subaru (etc) technicians that are just done with all this in their own vehicles.