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Asked whether they believed Trump has or has not “committed serious federal crimes,” 54 percent of poll respondents replied that he had. But 19 percent of them confirmed they’d still vote for this criminal ex-president in 2024. Along the same vein, 13 percent of those who believe Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results “threatened American democracy” still plan to vote for him next year.

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[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 63 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

This is part of why the GOP has been manufacturing lies about Joe Biden being corrupt so urgently: They can't convince most people that Trump isn't a criminal so they're trying to convince them that both candidates are criminals so it doesn't matter.

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I love how this is so patently obvious about Republican tactics, and just yesterday I had someone trying to argue that this isn't an inherently Republican talking point. "They're all crooks, so they're both the same!"

You can't convince me that some of them aren't Russian trolls looking to stir dissent and destabilize the nation.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There’s obviously Russian troll farms but when researchers published their memes and other posts, they were often kind of weird and didn’t gain wide reach.

So, my theory is that we don’t need Russian trolls to destabilize the nation. We have plenty of political marketing firms right here in America that have a deeper cultural understanding and an equal amount of shamelessness.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago

It would be so American if Russia hired an American firm to destabilize ourselves because we have a better understanding of the zeitgeist here.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I’d argue that’s already been done. That’s why we’re here.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can Russia still afford trolls these days while paying for the war?

[–] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trolls are cheap. Much cheaper than tanks.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Plus trolls don’t need spare parts or a supply chain that can be embargoed

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes! Biden is so corrupt that the GOP had to go after his son, who isn't a politician, in order to get anything on him....

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

And are still failing to make anything meaningful stick - despite having "mountains of evidence" lol