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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

And we're cheerleading for our money to be sent to other countries' wars.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

there is SO much money, as Levene in Glengarry Glen Ross says, "Just lying on the ground!"

However, we only allow certain people (businesses) to pick it up. We could give it to poor people and let the support of Ukraine continue. But we don't. Because we ideologically have the position that businesses are people, and more important people than people people.

All it takes is the admission that "line go up" could be "line go up a little bit less steeply" and we can do it.

But no, the steepness of the line is more important than anything else.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or, instead of that, we could spend just want we need to in order to literally defend our own shores and let our people have the abundant, full lives they deserve.

Canada only spends 26 billion a year on their military.

Mexico spends 8 billion.

All we're doing is making a few warmongers rich and coming upw ith excuses to justify it.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

No saying you are incorrect but the obvious conclusion to Russia -> Ukraine is North Korea -> South Korea, China -> Taiwan, etc etc. I have a problem letting more democratic countries fall to dictatorships. We've been here before and ended up losing 500,000 American lives to defeat (temporarily) fascism.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we're saying the same thing roughly. I agree, but I think it's an easier fight in $currentYear to tax the rich than defund the military/police.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

There is no easier fight here.

The people are powerless.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sending money is Israel = completely utterly worthless

Sending money to Ukraine = potentially staving off or preventing WW3

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Sending money to Ukraine = potentially staving off or preventing WW3

Also how nearly every war over the past 60 years has been sold to us.