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Bubba Copeland shot himself in front of police on Friday, days after he begged 1819 News not to expose his private life.

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You got a source for that, besides simply being a member of the GOP in s location where there is no plausible alternative?

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 37 points 1 year ago

There are plenty of Democrats in Alabama. He didn't have to run for public office.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no plausible alternative?

Are you kidding me!? "He had to be part of the anti-LGBTQ party because of where he lived". Fuck out of here with that nonsense. I deleted my longer comment, let me sum it to for you:

  • He didn't have to live in Alabama
  • He didn't have to be part of the anti-LGBTQ+ (or any) party
  • He didn't have have to run for political office
  • He didn't have to engage in crossdressing

If any of those conflict with each other, well; life is about choices. Anything less is cowardice.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Get a grip. I asked for a source that the person, who you all are celebrating the suicide of, was actually a terrible person or partook in the persecution of others.

That was the assertion that I was responding to, and none of that was mentioned in any source in this thread besides wild assumptions by people simply for being in the republican party in a small town.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He stood at the pulpit that makes him party to the persecution of others.

[–] Cannacheques 2 points 1 year ago

Meh sometimes people just hate someone for not understanding them. And that's enough. You don't always need to pretend to have a good reason for hating someone, you just decide and then one day someone asks you why, like asking about babies crying in Africa, people often prefer not to have their beliefs challenged or broken to pieces by any kind of paradigm shift

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

None of those words backs up your assertion, which was that there was "no plausible alternative" to being a GOP politician in Alabama. You can't defend it because it's complete nonsense.

Also, I didn't celebrate his death, and I haven't seen anyone else do so either...

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This person partook in the persecution of others. proof? they were in the GOP. there's your proof.

And nobody is celebrating suicide. This person is not a hero is all that is being said.

[–] great_site_not@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Is it implausible that perhaps this person wished to hide within the GOP to escape its suspicions about their personal life? A Democrat mayor in a deeply Republican area would attract a lot of distrust and hostility simply by virtue of being a Democrat. A Republican mayor, not so much.

Is every trans person morally obligated to leave every institution that persecutes them? Even when to do so would scrutiny?

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You heard it here folks, association by organization means you did the same thing some other shitheads did.

The secretaries for concentration camps? They gassed the Jews themselves, might as well have anyways, based on that logic.

Let's take it even further, all Germans are bad because of what Hitler did to the Jews, after all, they are ASSOCIATED with the SS, being in the same country and culture and all, they all obviously have symmetrical views because all people really believe the same thing even in a party such as the GOP.

(Don't you dare try to pretend those analogies flew over your head, work with me here)

Grow up, it's not about him "being a hero", nobody here is claiming that. The fact you came to that conclusion somehow on your own is evidence enough that you are celebrating his death. Have some respect, it seems pretty clear to me that he had second thoughts atleast some point in his life about his political decisions, had no way out, and when someone threatened to take even that away, made the last mistake you can ever make on your own accord. Please have some respect just as you would wish for yourself.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fUcK oFf NaZi ApOlOgIsT

When the time comes that you are on the other end of the blade, the people you despise will show you the exact same level of mercy you showed them. Problems do not have to be solved with death and violence, suffering and misery.

People like you are exactly what's wrong with this country, that same kind of hatred is what enables mass shooters to commit the atrocities that they commit, the same kind of hatred that allows Israel to bomb innocent civilians to fruitlessly take out ten times less that number of hamas fighters.

You have some soul searching to do, and if you find that you still have the same anger and hatred in your heart, you will never find true happiness, satisfaction, it will never be enough. You will grasp for more and more, clawing at every little thing until it consumes you and all others around you.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Telling that you're not even trying to dispute it.

When the time comes that you are on the other end of the blade, the people you despise will show you the exact same level of mercy you showed them.

You got the sides wrong, champ. I'm on the end of the blade, and I'm this angry because people like you are holding the knife.

People like you are exactly what’s wrong with this country

People who dislike nazis are the ones that are wrong with this country?

So that would mean, that in your view, the opposite (aka nazis and nazi supporters) are in the right.

You just keep telling on yourself...

You have some soul searching to do

If I do, it won't be because a nazi apologist told me to.

if you find that you still have the same anger and hatred in your heart, you will never find true happiness

That's funny coming from your kind.

Tell you what. I'll stop having anger in my heart when you stop trying to exterminate people like me.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

people like you

Who am I exactly with? Do you even know? Or are you making assumptions because you're an angry piece of shit redditor who walked to the wrong platform to spout the bullshit that you are?

more dumb unrelated shit about "nazi apologists"

Would you please shut the fuck up about the Nazis? The words I am reading from your post are legitimately the stupidest fucking things I've ever seen on the internet.

WAAAAHHH, ME ANGRY BECAUSE ME GOT CALLED OUT FOR BEING A BLOODTHIRSTY ANGRY PIECE OF SHIT HUMAN

You don't even know who I'm with, stop kidding yourself. You seem to still have a lot of growing up to do. Stop being a fucking baby ffs. Ironically the fact that you see things in black and white makes you similar to the Nazis.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see you're pretty about getting called out. Oh well, next time don't be a nazi apologist.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds more like you lack the intelligence to hold your own in a conversation so you're reaching for the "you're a nazi" card.

You realize you're basically calling everyone who lived in Germany from the late 30's to mid 40's a Nazi, right? You realize how smoothbrained that is.

If you can generalize a group of people and say "they're all basically the same" then where does that end? Do you think all Italians are the same? What about Britons? Considering the fact that you're basically saying that all Germans from that time period are Nazis just because they lived in a country run by the Nazi party, that sounds an awful lot like racism to me.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly my point

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 year ago

(Don’t you dare try to pretend those analogies flew over your head, work with me here)

lmao I loved this part.

You have a good point, I'm starting to think I was in a hateful mood yesterday. I still don't think this person was a hero but it's truly very sad that they had to hide this part of their life, and were so scared of the public's opinion that they killed themselves.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

If you choose to part of an organization dedicated to dominance at other's expense you're not a good person.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was not forced to be a GOP.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He would be if he wanted to become a mayor

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not really local level most people do care. My area is blue and my ward has a GOP council member. I did vote for him.

[–] SuddenlyBlowGreen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

besides simply being a member of the GOP in s location where there is no plausible alternative

You know that democrats do live in Alabama, right?