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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Engels zit ook vol met Oud Nederlandse woorden.

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A coworker of mine suggested that Dutch is the easiest language to learn for native English speakers, so I've been learning it on the side for the past few months.

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So is it easier ? I admit seeing dutch's sentence is kinda overwhelming. I lend toward spanish or italiano 😅

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not really, it's a fucked up language.

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why ?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just the way sentences are constructed, the vocabulary, the fine nuances etc. Not to mention the pronunciation (though that's where I'm personally doing the least bad).

Furthermore, there is a widely known issue with immigrants to the country never really learning the language due to a plethora of factors from the fact most Dutch people speak great English (so you don't get practice), English being used as internal company language, and all the "infrastructure" stuff like taxes, administration etc being translated.

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And how is immigrants integrations ? Do they find a pace in their society ?

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no, anyone can come make their life here (way easier to be successful here than in France for sure) but you do struggle to make Dutch friends as an adult. Still it's hard for me to picture a country that would be better to live in except maybe Nordics or Switzerland. What is missing is anything more "raw", great nature, great food, warm personalities etc are missing. That can be compensated somewhat by traveling often but I do think we'll move again someday to a place with more of that kind of things (just not France, NEVER! :D)

[–] Camus@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago

What is missing is anything more “raw”, great nature, great food, warm personalities etc are missing.

Weather comes to mind too 😄

[–] Snoopy@jlai.lu 2 points 10 months ago

So the message should be : learn old french and old Dutch > visit the world ☺️