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TIL 1948 was hundreds, arguably thousands of years ago.
If Scotland and England staring waring would we say "it's just been that way for thousands of years?"
The current conflict has a very specific cause and it's folly to ignore the reasons.
Scotland and England share a border and have fought for territory for hundreds of years
Dude England picks fights with everyone. They're the cause of the current Israel-Palestine conflict.
Again I chose Scotland because they share a border.
Nope! Solomon's temple was built 1000-600 BCE. From then till christianity took over it's mostly been a backwater, or buffer zone.
It only seems important because we have writing from people who lived there (the Torah, etc.) saying how important it was (to them), then that writing got the official stamp of truth when the Roman empire took over Christianity.
To the extent it was fought over, it was mostly because it was between much more important areas - the Egyptians and other powers like the Hittites, Babylonians or Assyrians.
Even then the neo-babylonians for example seem to have left the region largely depopulated - it's not like they actually wanted it for any reason
The neo-babylonians sacked Jerusalem, among many other cities and temples. Temples are where much of the wealth and power was kept, sacking the first temple had little to do with the potency of their specific religion. At that time the religion was just the normal Canaanite pantheon.
Judaism as we think of it, with the covenant between the special people and a single all powerful god - that only begins after the first temple is destroyed and Judah is largely depopulated, around the 500-200BCE time period.
The Romans destroyed it 70CE. ~600 years between major sacks of your city shows it's not that important.
Yes, during the medieval period Jerusalem finally starts to become an important goal of religious conflict - 2-2.5 thousand years later than the building of the temple of Solomon
So glad someone beat me to this comment.
"It's just a centuries old intractible conflict", says imperialist culture which drew the borders on purpose to destabilize the region.
"It's the imperialist culture that drew the borders", says person who apparently is completely unaware of the history of the middle east in the past few hundred years, nor in the geo-political forces behind the conflict in the past 75 years.
This seemingly simple comment already tells me you are pro-palestinian. Also, for someone that is interested enough in this matter to take part in this discussion, you show impressive ignorance.
So just to to troll you a bit, let me answer this way: Thinking that this crisis started when seven Arab armies attacked Israel with the proclaimed goal of "sweeping the Jews into the sea and pillaging the millions they invested in the country" is extremely short sighted.