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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wow. Going to war while telling your leader to quit. That's leaping off without a parachute.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

The war is BECAUSE of Netanyahu. Yes he should quit. Israelis replaced Golda Meir for her governments failures during wars.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

This is as much war as US' war on terror.

Everyone is wondering how Israel missed it, there are even theories that he knew about the attack and let it happen to increase nationalist sentiment and secure more power. He just didn't know it will be this bad.

He deserves to be removed, but he will fight to stay because he has no shame.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Netanyahu is not like Churchill against the nazis, Hammas is like a bunch of Kids with sticks against Israel Army

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There still should be a plan and a leader responsible for its implementation. Hamas maybe a bunch of kids with sticks, but Israeli Army is not, and potential for screwup is high.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is a prime minister the one that comes up with plan like that?

[–] Corran1138@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There’s multiple levels so the answer is “sort of.” Very generally, the Minister of Defense (or equivalent) has a national defense council that will have heads of armed forces and maybe a few senior civilian members. The council creates the overall battle plan with specific generals or admirals creating plans for specific battles or campaigns that conform to the overarching goals set by the defense council. The Prime Minister has a cabinet. The cabinet will receive info from the defense council. Intelligence agencies and departments involved with any economic warfare. The PM and cabinet can give direction to individual councils and departments to coordinate the overarching strategy of the entire country. The defense council will then adjust plans based on Cabinet’s directives. The PM is probably given detailed briefings of battlefield progress and aims for the military for the short-, medium-, and long-term for the conflict and can veto specific plans. But the PM won’t help to plan attacks or modify those plans usually. That’s the purview of generals and admirals.

[–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You maybe right, but I just can't see any big risk for Israel here besides lose their institutions to an autocratic leader.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

As I said, potential for screwup is high. But the leader does not has to be Netanyahu.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Those are two separate decisions, the latter is a good one and the former terrible.