I do not listen to political speeches. But I am so tired when people are throwing words like genocide without even 2 seconds of thinking. Should I just go and use “antisemite” in responce?

[–] catfish@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On this topic, on this instance, it's far far worse than the standard of discourse on reddit

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Are you talking about antisemitism?

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I admit, this does sound as grab for land, and yet the goal is not destruction of Palestinians. And formally, grab for land, as bad as it is, is not genocide.

[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@MxM111

And formally, grab for land, as bad as it is, is not genocide.

I agree with this. If the goal is to grab land and for a specific group to leave that land so you can grab it, the technical term is "ethnic cleansing" not genocide.

In practice, for logistical or ideological reasons, ethnic cleansing sometimes turns into genocidal killing, which is partly why we take it so seriously.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Sure, the grab for land should not happen, and despite of what one prime minister says, I do not believe it will. The stakes now is just too high to allow right (ultra right even) block in Israeli parament who is in power to use justified response to grab for land, with all that's going on in the world with Russia/China/Iran, etc. I think there is/will be fundamental shift in Israel politics where current ultra right parties with "strong on defense" politics will be blamed for insufficient progress of resolution of Israel/Palestine problem and voted out. But this will happen only after the current war is mostly finished and Hamas is removed from power Palestine. The only way I see out of this conflict is establishing Fatah/PA rule in sector Gaza.