I still think that the underlying problem is purely a collapsing economic system. This has always been the case in the capitalist system when, due to some crisis, the speculative bubble burst, always in the quest for infinite growth. This situation always ended with a war, for which any pretext was used, to make a reset, especially by imperialist countries whose largest investments are in the military and weapons field. Destroyed countries with a reduced population are always a huge deal with reconstruction, to start this cycle of infinite growth again. It's that simple. All of the current neo-liberal governments should be hanged by the balls to do justice to the people who, as always, pay for these excesses with misery and suffering.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The fact that Ukraine was falling apart all on its own was why I didn't see the logic in Russia actually invading. They could've just sat there and waited for more regions to separate.

[–] DPUGT2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They could’ve just sat there and waited for more regions to separate.

Perhaps Putin knows something the rest of us don't.

Like, I dunno... that more regions didn't want to separate, and any pretense to the contrary was purely through his own meddling?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Or perhaps he knows that most regions will either support or not resist Russia?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Yes, but this don't help the economy. The problem in Ukraine has existed for more than 8 years with the oppression of the pro-Russian population, which has already cost more than 10,000 deaths.

But this has not interested anyone. But now, with an economy on the ground, both in Russia and in the US, now suddenly Ukraine is moving into the center of interest, the US doing business selling weapons to Ukraine, with the promise of making them members of NATO and Russia taking the relief, providing support to the pro-Russian side.

Putin claiming that the US wants to extend its influence to its borders while Biden says that Russia wants to annex Ukraine. To take a simile, what would the US say, when Russia proposes to arm Cuba by including them in the Soviet defense? Ah, okay, we already had this.

Meanwhile, the arms industry of both blocs earning a nose of gold and flourishing the economies of both, and the EU between the sword and the wall, as members of the NATO defending interests of EEUU but not the own.

As I said, to hang them by the balls, both.