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Former soldier searched Google, Reddit for spying tips, prosecutors say — Investigators say they found a document on the man's computer titled: “Important Information to Share with Chinese Governme...::A document titled “Important Information to Share with Chinese Government" was allegedly found on the former soldier's computer.

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[–] panja@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago (5 children)

“Important Information to Share with Chinese Government"

I'm not a conspiracy person but does this not reek of a setup? 😂 Like surely someone spying for the chinese government wouldn't just title a document that...

[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd be surprised how inept some people can be. Back when I worked in defense, we heard a story about a guy who, while preparing to exfiltrate sensitive data, named the file "data_to_exfiltrate.zip". What a moron.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah.. Or setups just go past your nose often.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

I don't believe them as long as they don't find copies oft "Sims 3" too.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://www.justice.gov/media/1318381/dl?inline

Here's the link the the FBI's released on the topic. If this was a set up the FBI is as bad at espionage as Schmidt was. He literally offered to commit treason for China via his normal gmail, with his real name attached, that was given to the US army by himself.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

but then again this could easily be used to reason why the nsa 'needs' to spy on every citizen ever, else some 2¢ wannabe treasonist will make america 'not great'

[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you have proper full disk encryption and know the caveats, it really doesn't matter what you name your files. If you're the anal-retentive spy handler type, you are probably very organized, and you name files with exactly what's in them.

He was a spy handler who handled secret and top secret documents and worked in intelligence for a number of years. I'm sure he knew how to encrypt his hard drive.

He may have even used a VPN, or tor for the searches which has (had?) a very curious ongoing network-wide DDoS attack (very useful if you had access to the entire inflow and outflow of the Internet via undersea cables and ISP access and wanted to do timing attacks) for at least a year in 2022-2023. The tor project themselves tell you that if your adversary is a nation-state, you need to use more protection than just browsing from your normal laptop on your home network.

I imagine he at minimum used private browsing to search Google and reddit for this stuff, but they logged the search and the DoD was later able to easily get the customer details of the IP from his ISP at the time the searches took place, and also all other searches during a time.

But it's also just as likely he thought he'd be in the clear, knows how incompetent the beurocracy seems since he was inside of it, but something he did tipped them off and he was scrutinized (maybe his VISA application for China and plans to travel there yearly).

This seems like a weird way to set someone up... Setups are much more rare than the movies would have you believe.

I'm mostly concerned with the lack of details about whether he did or did not successfully give China those details... He was arrested at the San Francisco airport coming back from China... asset info, meeting places, etc, of even just a few known spies can potentially give the adversary a pattern to look for to find other unknown assets. I forget exactly when, where, or who, but there was some massive spy bust (either Russians in US or US in Russia, iirc) that happened because of some pattern they found between the registered addresses of the spies... Something about them all living in the same apartment building, or the numbers in the building or something. If anyone remembers the story please link it here.

[–] ink@r.nf 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For a populace that's dumb enough to elect a con man as a president, eat horse dewormers, you don't really have to make it any more complicated when you want to frame someone. Most of them don't even have reading comprehension of a 6 grader.

"look there, aliens"

"yeehaw, alien hunting time"

"look there, WMD"

"Sign me up, war crime time"

Rest of them

"Thank you for your service"

[–] 0xb@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Remember Jack the Dripper?