First up whale song. Yes humans hearing whale song did help to end whaling but it was mostly due to the fact that the main product of whaling, Whale Oil, could now be replaced with oil out of the ground.

Another thing to note. While whale numbers are increasing (which is wonderful) they can no longer hear each other.

When Moby Dick was written in the age of sail, whale songs could travel and be heard across thousands of km of oceans and possibly even cross half the planet in the pacific ocean to be heard and responded to by other whales.

Now that are drowned out by the sounds of marine diesel engines housed in the thousands of cargo ships that ply the worlds water ways.

Imagine the reaction we would receive if we proposed that humans should go back to sail to allow the whales to hear each other again.

On the topic of talking to animals...

Humans have been talking to and understanding each other for thousands of years and look at what we still do to each other despite this level of communication...

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If thanks to AI we decrypted every single whisteld word they pronounce, they would probably reveal that a kind of YRR project is truly in progress, just like in' the fifth day'.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

YRR project is truly in progress, just like in’ the fifth day’.

What is a YRR project and what is the fifth day?

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, the original title is different https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Swarm_(Sch%C3%A4tzing_novel)

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

No apology necessary. Thanks for the details.

I'm happy to see there in an English translation. looks like I will have to track down a copy.

[–] dillekant 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's all right dude just think solarpunk thoughts. We are going to be ok.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Do your solarpunk thoughts extend to the action not buying anything that needs sea transport to help the whales talk to each other?

or at least considering it when you do buy something produced overseas?

[–] Marsupial@quokk.au -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Uh we are proposing we go back to sail power.

The Pyxis Ocean has set sail to test EU-funded WindWings technology that will bring cutting edge wind propulsion to commercial shipping for the first time.

https://cinea.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/new-wind-powered-cargo-ship-sets-sail-2023-08-22_en

https://maritime-executive.com/editorials/sailing-cargo-ships-are-making-a-genuine-comeback

Edit: Also really EU? The first time? You think this is the first time wind powered sailing was cutting edge? Not for the thousands of years before modern engines?

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Cargo ships with marine diesel engines that are aided with a few sails is not, going back to sail.

The noise will still be there.

They mention a 30% fuel saving. This is not about reducing sea trade it is about cost savings, making sea trade cheaper and likely leading to more ships, not less on the oceans,

Even it it lead to 30% less ships, this would only take the world back to about 2010 as sea trade had grown by more than 30% since then.