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Download Rufus.
Download Pop! OS
Create USB installer.
Install Pop! OS
There you go.
insert specific versions of missing dependencies here for whatever program you try to run
I mean sure I guess? I don't know what you're running where that happens a lot, but everything I have on my system has been as easy or easier to install as Windows.
Joking and snark aside, Linux can be as difficult or as easy to use as you want it to be.
Downloading apps games and software should not be difficult, yet Linux proves it otherwise
Installing Steam on Windows: Microsoft has a store but it sucks, I don't think Steam is even in there, so you have to open up your browser and remember that the URL is steampowered.com or maybe valvesoftware.com, or google it, somehow make visually sure you've found the right webpage and that you're not being scammed, find the download page, click Download, now it downloads a small installer .exe to your Downloads folder, open up your file manager, go to you Downloads folder, find the .exe that just came down, click that, there's a several step process that asks you several questions that amount to "do you want to install this in a non-standard place that will break shit later?" then it downloads and installs the actual app.
Installing Steam on Linux (I'm using Mint Cinnamon here, but the process is pretty similar for most popular distros): Open the software manager, type "steam" in the search box, click on the first result to come up, click install, key in your password, it downloads and installs the app.
TL;DR: Everyone. Android, iOS, MacOS, every single Linux distro. Everyone. Has a functioning app store system that users actually use. Except Windows.
Good for you. When I was installing steam on ANY Linux so far, the installation didn't finish because of missing dependencies. What kind of dependencies? - No idea, go figure it out on your own.
Without the help of Google I wouldn't have steam.
Sure I could install flatpak right? But flatpak does not come by default on most systems, so what kind of command do I have to run to install it? Again no idea -> go google the command or its website
I pretty much outright don't believe you. Flatpak ships by default on a lot of distros; it works on Linux Mint and is integrated with Mint's software center. In my procedure I said "click the first option that pops up" well the Flatpak version is the second option. I do know that Manjaro requires you to go into the software manager's settings and toggle it on, and Ubuntu deliberately doesn't include Flatpak by default because of their competing Snap store.
The assertion that Flatpak "does not come by default on most systems" is factually incorrect. Per this page: https://flathub.org/setup the majority of distros listed say that "Flatpak is included with newer versions by default and is ready out of the box." With a notable exception of regular old Ubuntu, for which the command is "sudo apt install flatpak." Or Arch or Gentoo, whose entire deal is "By default we install AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. Do it yourself."
Not on void
Can't speak from experience as I've never touched Void Linux, but reading about it to make this comment, it sounds like Arch but worse. A rolling release GUI-optional distro with its own special boy package manager...yeah I'm starting to believe your dependency hell woes.
Either way the command for installing Flatpak on Void is sudo xbps-install -S flatpak, which I would expect a user of Void Linux to know or be willing to learn.
Ah... there's your problem.
Are you serious? I can install nearly any software just by typing 'sudo apt install' and that's it. How is that difficult?
It's difficult when it doesn't work ;)
Then you are forced to dive into "what next missing dependency I have to install"
Or worse "what package conflicts with what I want to install"
I don't have issues like that... Like ever.
I had an issue switching away from Pop!, and it may have been a one off, but when I tried to install a different distro, and it wound up screwing up my boot partition to the point the easiest thing was just to run a live distro, pop open parted, and wipe from there before I could install a different distro.
Mostly mentioning it because it was annoying to figure out and remedy - the remedy was annoying because I only had one flash drive so I had to wipe what I wanted to install, and just wasting time regarding that.
Honestly, there's a half dozen that are just as good as Fedora out of the box, and dozens that are just as capable once broken in.
Dude what are you talking about? Are you running something super specialized or old, wacky hardware? Trying to use Wayland with an Nvidia GPU? I'd gladly put my Pop system up against any Fedora system and I wouldn't have a hiccup.
Haha if you say so, kid.
The gamer variant you're talking about is Nobara.
Which is pretty good.
I switched to it about a month ago, reminds me of what Ubuntu used to be with its easy to use-ness
@stephenc @the_q
I think you're talking about Nobara Linux.
It is? Hmm I've not had a single issue with it in years. It gets regular updates, granted it's not on the current Ubuntu version, but out of date it is not. What problems does it have?
Use what you want, but making the declaration that Fedora is the distro to go with is a stretch.
Couldnt even shut down my pc with popos
That sounds like a you problem then.
Wow you must really struggle with basic day to day stuff then
What a bizarre flex lmao
You may as well be saying I don't know how to flush my toilet 😎